Hi Srinath, Thanks for walking me through your feedback. Please take a look at the new structure of the User Guide [1] and let me know what you think, especially the new "Getting Messages" topic and its child topics at the beginning of the guide.
[1] http://docs.wso2.org/display/ESB480/User+Guide Cheers, Jackie On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jackie Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm working on the ESB docs and will be in the office again on Monday (5th > floor), so please come find me and we can walk through it. > > Thanks, > Jackie > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Jackie, >> >> 4.7.0 docs. I will chat with Nirdesha and show her. >> >> --Srinath >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Jackie Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks so much for this feedback! Can you tell me more about what you >>> had trouble finding? Also, were you looking at the 4.7.0 or 4.8.0 doc? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jackie >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Great feedback! >>> >>> For adding stuff to admin console .. generally I'm -1 on adding >>> developer stuff to the admin console. We've in fact been moving more and >>> more towards making it more of just an admin console and not a developer >>> tool. >>> >>> Added Jackie too for doc updates. Jackie please review mail from Srinath >>> below if you haven't seen it already. >>> >>> Sanjiva. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I did worked with ESB lot in a previous week and have some feedback >>>> >>>> 1. Now Docs are pretty good, we managed without having to ask ESB >>>> team much even though none of us work work with ESB day to day >>>> 2. Descriptions need few samples - currently often each mediator >>>> has one example. But if it can be used in different ways, it helps to >>>> have >>>> few examples. Ant manual does this very well. >>>> 3. It is bit tricky to find out where some stuff are. I think >>>> overall section structure can improve I think. >>>> >>>> Payload mediator is a life saver, and it make the expereince very neat. >>>> But still there are many samples that uses enrich which can be done with >>>> payload. >>>> >>>> Need to update the samples to use new things like payload medatior and >>>> receive method in <send> for service chaining >>>> >>>> Still one of the main challenge is debugging. I think we can improve >>>> experience by adding more logging. >>>> >>>> - improve <log .. > so we can add log messages without taking too >>>> much real state of the program (I sent a mail to arch@) >>>> - Add a mediator like env command that let us print all properties >>>> at a given point >>>> - Another idea is to add an mediator to hold execution and may be >>>> let interactive control and inspection for debugging via a admin service >>>> call (mapped as scripts) >>>> >>>> We need a list of all supported xpath functions in one place(is it >>>> already there?) >>>> >>>> Our aggregate is implicitly bound to a closest clone/ iterate. If you >>>> think is language terms, it actually solve three problems. >>>> >>>> 1) create new threads >>>> 2) iterate messages >>>> 3) wait for and process things (join threads) >>>> >>>> As all three cases are linked, sometime it is tricky to >>>> use aggregate and iterate. Think we can improve things. I will send another >>>> mail. >>>> >>>> Few other things >>>> >>>> 1. I think we need a say to do things atomically in ESB. Something >>>> like synchronised block or check and set operation . >>>> 2. I think we need support for regex extraction for text >>>> manipulation >>>> 3. I think we need support for List templates from Admin console UI >>>> >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> --Srinath >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ============================ >>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D. >>>> Director, Research, WSO2 Inc. >>>> Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa >>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>>> Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation >>>> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/ >>>> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/ >>>> Phone: 0772360902 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>> email: [email protected]; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880| +1 >>> 650 265 8311 >>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >>> >>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ============================ >> Srinath Perera, Ph.D. >> Director, Research, WSO2 Inc. >> Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa >> Member, Apache Software Foundation >> Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation >> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/ >> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/ >> Phone: 0772360902 >> > > > > -- > *Jackie Wheeler* > VP, Technical Content > WSO2, Inc. > Mobile: +1 510 725-2876 > http://wso2.com/ > -- *Jackie Wheeler* VP, Technical Content WSO2, Inc. Mobile: +1 510 725-2876 http://wso2.com/
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