Hi Isabell,

will do.

Hi Srinath,

Sure, let's have a F2F chat whenever that works for you. However, today I
am out of the office :).


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Shafreen,
>
> For debugging we can write a mediator that can block/ unblock the current
> execution and let users control that through remote calls (one way to do
> this). Shall we chat F2F sometime.
>
> --Srinath
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Shafreen Anfar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think having some sort of debugging mechanism would be really helpful.
>> Some other external developers also raised the same issue during the
>> training session on connectors. In fact, they even asked for the same thing
>> - "print all properties at a given point ".
>>
>> Hi Srinath,
>>
>> We have created two Redmin issues on debugging
>>
>> [1] https://redmine.wso2.com/issues/2148
>> [2] https://redmine.wso2.com/issues/2147
>>
>> The idea we have in mind for now is to write a mediator that would print
>> the current status of the Message Context such as headers, properties and
>> current payload in readable manner.
>>
>> However, IMO, the ideal debugger should be written in collaboration with
>> DevS where you get to add breakpoints and everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Have you guys seen this thread? lets chat and Add redmine items if make
>>> sense.
>>>
>>> --Srinath
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kasun, miyuru can we chat sometime and send mail/ add redmine items.
>>>>
>>>> --Srinath
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great feedback!
>>>>>
>>>>> For adding stuff to admin console .. generally I'm -1 on adding
>>>>> developer stuff to the admin console. We've in fact been moving more and
>>>>> more towards making it more of just an admin console and not a developer
>>>>> tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Added Jackie too for doc updates. Jackie please review mail from
>>>>> Srinath below if you haven't seen it already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did worked with ESB lot in a previous week and have some feedback
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Now Docs are pretty good, we managed without having to ask ESB
>>>>>>    team much even though none of us work work with ESB day to day
>>>>>>    2. Descriptions need few samples - currently often each mediator
>>>>>>    has one example. But if it can be used in different ways, it helps to 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>    few examples. Ant manual does this very well.
>>>>>>    3. It is bit tricky to find out where some stuff are. I think
>>>>>>    overall section structure can improve I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Payload mediator is a life saver, and it make the expereince very
>>>>>> neat. But still there are many samples that uses enrich which can be done
>>>>>> with payload.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need to update the samples to use new things like payload medatior
>>>>>> and receive method in <send> for service chaining
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still one of the main challenge is debugging. I think we can improve
>>>>>> experience by adding more logging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - improve <log .. > so we can add log messages without taking too
>>>>>>    much real state of the program (I sent a mail to arch@)
>>>>>>    - Add a mediator like env command that let us print all
>>>>>>    properties at a given point
>>>>>>    - Another idea is to add an mediator to hold execution and may be
>>>>>>    let interactive control and inspection for debugging via a admin 
>>>>>> service
>>>>>>    call (mapped as scripts)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need a list of all supported xpath functions in one place(is it
>>>>>> already there?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our aggregate is implicitly bound to a closest clone/ iterate. If you
>>>>>> think is language terms, it actually solve three problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) create new threads
>>>>>> 2) iterate messages
>>>>>> 3) wait for and process things (join threads)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As all three cases are linked, sometime it is tricky to
>>>>>> use aggregate and iterate. Think we can improve things. I will send 
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Few other things
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. I think we need a say to do things atomically in ESB.
>>>>>>    Something like synchronised block or check and set operation .
>>>>>>    2. I think we need support for regex extraction for text
>>>>>>    manipulation
>>>>>>    3. I think we need support for List templates from Admin console
>>>>>>    UI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
>>>>>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>   Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>>>>>>    Phone: 0772360902
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com/
>>>>> email: [email protected]; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880| +1
>>>>> 650 265 8311
>>>>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ============================
>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
>>>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>   Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>>>>    Phone: 0772360902
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>>
>>
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>> Regards,
>> *Shafreen*
>> Software Engineer
>> WSO2 Inc
>> Mobile : 077-556-395-1
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ============================
> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>   Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>    Phone: 0772360902
>



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