+1 for releasing orbits then and there, and using those instead of building
them along with the kernel/platform. As also discussed yesterday, this is
one way to solve this build issue menace cropping up as a result of Maven
Repo changes.

Thanks,
Senaka.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But there is a risk of releasing the orbit bundle just after creating.
>> Those orbit bundles may get changed multiple times during the bug fixing
>> phase.  So we will end up releasing multiple minor versions. Just a thought.
>>
>
> How many times has that happened in the past? The orbit the OSGifies an
> already released jar. What is so complex about that & why would we
> repeatedly be making mistakes in such a simple task?
>
>
>>
>> Anyway I am +1 for releasing orbits immediately.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do we need SNAPSHOT for orbits at all? It is just a wrapper of a
>>>> released lib. So just create the new version and deploy into m2 - Done!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> +1. This is what I suggested some time back too.
>>>
>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>> Samisa...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>
>>>> Vice President Developer Evangelism
>>>>
>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Kishanthan Thangarajah <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Our current approach of having third party dependencies as OSGi
>>>>> bundles is to make them into an orbit project. The release of them happen
>>>>> with the kernel or platform release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of this, currently when building carbon from source, we first
>>>>> have to build orbit. But this is not needed if we maintain orbit as an
>>>>> external project (may be in git-hub) and use one of the following.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Use SNAPSHOT repo approach. The developer who creates a new orbit
>>>>> project will have to deploy the snapshot version of it to the repo. The
>>>>> official release of those will happen on its own way. It can align either
>>>>> with a kernel release or platform release (major or patch releases).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Releasing the newly created orbit project immediately after
>>>>> creating it. This is possible because we don't normally do any changes to
>>>>> it (pom) afterwards. This also has to be done by the developer (after all
>>>>> the testing). The downside of this is we may end up with multiple versions
>>>>> for a projects. But this will be minimal.
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases above, the components requiring those orbit dependencies
>>>>> will have to update to those released/snapshot versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The orbit projects for forked dependencies will follow the same
>>>>> approach as earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions and thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Kishanthan.
>>>>>
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