As everyone agree on this proposal IMHO we can start to practise this
approach from 4.3.0 kernal and platform releases.

Thanks !


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 for releasing orbits then and there, and using those instead of
> building them along with the kernel/platform. As also discussed yesterday,
> this is one way to solve this build issue menace cropping up as a result of
> Maven Repo changes.
>
> Thanks,
> Senaka.
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> But there is a risk of releasing the orbit bundle just after creating.
>>> Those orbit bundles may get changed multiple times during the bug fixing
>>> phase.  So we will end up releasing multiple minor versions. Just a thought.
>>>
>>
>> How many times has that happened in the past? The orbit the OSGifies an
>> already released jar. What is so complex about that & why would we
>> repeatedly be making mistakes in such a simple task?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Anyway I am +1 for releasing orbits immediately.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why do we need SNAPSHOT for orbits at all? It is just a wrapper of a
>>>>> released lib. So just create the new version and deploy into m2 - Done!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> +1. This is what I suggested some time back too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice President Developer Evangelism
>>>>>
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Kishanthan Thangarajah <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Our current approach of having third party dependencies as OSGi
>>>>>> bundles is to make them into an orbit project. The release of them happen
>>>>>> with the kernel or platform release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of this, currently when building carbon from source, we first
>>>>>> have to build orbit. But this is not needed if we maintain orbit as an
>>>>>> external project (may be in git-hub) and use one of the following.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Use SNAPSHOT repo approach. The developer who creates a new orbit
>>>>>> project will have to deploy the snapshot version of it to the repo. The
>>>>>> official release of those will happen on its own way. It can align either
>>>>>> with a kernel release or platform release (major or patch releases).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Releasing the newly created orbit project immediately after
>>>>>> creating it. This is possible because we don't normally do any changes to
>>>>>> it (pom) afterwards. This also has to be done by the developer (after all
>>>>>> the testing). The downside of this is we may end up with multiple 
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>> for a projects. But this will be minimal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both cases above, the components requiring those orbit
>>>>>> dependencies will have to update to those released/snapshot versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The orbit projects for forked dependencies will follow the same
>>>>>> approach as earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions and thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Kishanthan.
>>>>>>
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