Hi Azeez, Does this timeout in open state occurs in exponentially (first timeout in 10 secs, next in 20 secs etc) or linearly when transitioning back to half-open state? For example if the state is in "Open" and now the timeout (lets say 10secs timeout) occurs. Then the state is moved to "half-open" state. But the next request is also a failure and breaker state is moved back to "open". In this occasion the what will be the timeout value? Is it 10 secs or 20 secs?
Having an exponential timeout might be beneficiary here as it might save lot of resources if the service is continuously failing. But I think it would be better if we can provide both options in a configurable manner. So it is up to the developer to decide which method to use. Thanks, Harshan Liyanage Software Engineer Mobile: *+94724423048* Email: hars...@wso2.com Blog : http://harshanliyanage.blogspot.com/ *WSO2, Inc. :** wso2.com <http://wso2.com/>* lean.enterprise.middleware. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: > I have written a sample which demonstrates circuit breaker in action; > http://blog.afkham.org/2016/03/microservices-circuit-breaker.html > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> This is a feature supported by some microservices frameworks. On the >> server side, in this case MSF4J runtime, failure counts are kept track of >> and then if the failures exceed certain thresholds, the circuit trips and >> rather than dispatch to the service, it returns service unavailable. >> >> Can you explain why this is not needed in a container environment? >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanj...@wso2.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't understand what server side circuit breaker means. How does the >>> server adjust itself? Where's that bit of logic running? >>> >>> IMO this is not needed in a container world. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, that is client side circuit breaker. What Aruna is implementing is >>>> server side circuit breaker. Yes, we need both. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Lakmal Warusawithana <lak...@wso2.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did you looked at [1] >>>>> >>>>> Netflix Hystrix <https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix> is an incredibly >>>>> useful library for writing code that invokes remote services. Hystrix >>>>> times >>>>> out calls that exceed the specified threshold. It implements a *circuit >>>>> breaker* pattern, which stops the client from waiting needlessly for >>>>> an unresponsive service. If the error rate for a service exceeds a >>>>> specified threshold, Hystrix trips the circuit breaker and all requests >>>>> will fail immediately for a specified period of time. Hystrix lets you >>>>> define a fallback action when a request fails, such as reading from a >>>>> cache >>>>> or returning a default value. If you are using the JVM you should >>>>> definitely consider using Hystrix. >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Aruna Karunarathna <ar...@wso2.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Devs, >>>>>> >>>>>> *Scenario* >>>>>> >>>>>> The deployed services in a MSF4J may fail to serve the requests due >>>>>> to various factors. e.g, >>>>>> 1. Less resources in the server. >>>>>> 2. High Load in the server >>>>>> 3, Some services take more time to respond etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this kind of a situation, if the server is getting requests though >>>>>> there is no resources to serve those requests, and eventually the server >>>>>> will get unusable. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Solution* >>>>>> >>>>>> The Circuit Breaker design pattern can save the server from above >>>>>> scenarios, The typical design can be illustrated as in the following >>>>>> diagram. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So as in the above diagram, when number of failures of a particular >>>>>> resource exceeds the Max Failure Count, then the state of that resource >>>>>> is >>>>>> moved to the open state with a timeout value (Trip Breaker). At this >>>>>> point >>>>>> the requests coming to the server is routed back without passing the >>>>>> internal to process further. >>>>>> >>>>>> After the timeout has reached, the state is moved to Half-Open state, >>>>>> and if the consecutive request pass to the server to process (Attempt >>>>>> Reset), if success then close the circuit (Reset Breaker), If fail then >>>>>> again move the state to the Open with a timeout value (Trip Breaker). >>>>>> >>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions regarding the above approach? >>>>>> >>>>>> References >>>>>> [1]. >>>>>> http://www.javaworld.com/article/2824163/application-performance/stability-patterns-applied-in-a-restful-architecture.html?page=2 >>>>>> [2]. >>>>>> http://ssagara.blogspot.com/2015/05/timeout-and-circuit-breaker-pattern-in.html >>>>>> [3]. https://pragprog.com/book/mnee/release-it >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Aruna >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> *Aruna Sujith Karunarathna * >>>>>> WSO2, Inc | lean. enterprise. middleware. >>>>>> #20, Palm Grove, Colombo 03, Sri Lanka >>>>>> Mobile: +94 71 9040362 | Work: +94 112145345 >>>>>> Email: ar...@wso2.com | Web: www.wso2.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>> Architecture@wso2.org >>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lakmal Warusawithana >>>>> Director - Cloud Architecture; WSO2 Inc. >>>>> Mobile : +94714289692 >>>>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Afkham Azeez* >>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>>> * <http://www.apache.org/>* >>>> *email: **az...@wso2.com* <az...@wso2.com> >>>> * cell: +94 77 3320919 <%2B94%2077%203320919>blog: * >>>> *http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org> >>>> *twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez* >>>> <http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> >>>> *linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez >>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez>* >>>> >>>> *Lean . 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