So this is not what I expected the real use case to be ... this is
basically a fancy try catch.

Don't we want to show a client side example?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:

> Timeout is related to the actual operation taking more time than
> anticipated. In such a case, without waiting indefinitely, the operation
> times out and the fallback of the Hystrix command will be invoked. The
> circuit will be open for a fixed period of time configured by
> https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix/wiki/Configuration#circuitBreaker.sleepWindowInMilliseconds
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Harshan Liyanage <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Azeez,
>>
>> Does this timeout in open state occurs in exponentially (first timeout in
>> 10 secs, next in 20 secs etc) or linearly when transitioning back to
>> half-open state? For example if the state is in "Open" and now the timeout
>> (lets say 10secs timeout) occurs. Then the state is moved to "half-open"
>> state. But the next request is also a failure and breaker state is moved
>> back to "open". In this occasion the what will be the timeout value? Is it
>> 10 secs or 20 secs?
>>
>> Having an exponential timeout might be beneficiary here as it might save
>> lot of resources if the service is continuously failing. But I think it
>> would be better if we can provide both options in a configurable manner. So
>> it is up to the developer to decide which method to use.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Harshan Liyanage
>> Software Engineer
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>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have written a sample which demonstrates circuit breaker in action;
>>> http://blog.afkham.org/2016/03/microservices-circuit-breaker.html
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a feature supported by some microservices frameworks. On the
>>>> server side, in this case MSF4J runtime, failure counts are kept track of
>>>> and then if the failures exceed certain thresholds, the circuit trips and
>>>> rather than dispatch to the service, it returns service unavailable.
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain why this is not needed in a container environment?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand what server side circuit breaker means. How does
>>>>> the server adjust itself? Where's that bit of logic running?
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO this is not needed in a container world.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that is client side circuit breaker. What Aruna is implementing
>>>>>> is server side circuit breaker. Yes, we need both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Lakmal Warusawithana <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you looked at [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Netflix Hystrix <https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix> is an
>>>>>>> incredibly useful library for writing code that invokes remote services.
>>>>>>> Hystrix times out calls that exceed the specified threshold. It 
>>>>>>> implements
>>>>>>> a *circuit breaker* pattern, which stops the client from waiting
>>>>>>> needlessly for an unresponsive service. If the error rate for a service
>>>>>>> exceeds a specified threshold, Hystrix trips the circuit breaker and all
>>>>>>> requests will fail immediately for a specified period of time. Hystrix 
>>>>>>> lets
>>>>>>> you define a fallback action when a request fails, such as reading from 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> cache or returning a default value. If you are using the JVM you should
>>>>>>> definitely consider using Hystrix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Aruna Karunarathna <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Scenario*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The deployed services in a MSF4J may fail to serve the requests due
>>>>>>>> to various factors. e.g,
>>>>>>>> 1. Less resources in the server.
>>>>>>>> 2. High Load in the server
>>>>>>>> 3, Some services take more time to respond etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this kind of a situation, if the server is getting requests
>>>>>>>> though there is no resources to serve those requests, and eventually 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> server will get unusable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Solution*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Circuit Breaker design pattern can save the server from above
>>>>>>>> scenarios, The typical design can be illustrated as in the following
>>>>>>>> diagram.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So as in the above diagram, when number of failures of a particular
>>>>>>>> resource exceeds the Max Failure Count, then the state of that 
>>>>>>>> resource is
>>>>>>>> moved to the open state with a timeout value (Trip Breaker). At this 
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>> the requests coming to the server is routed back without passing the
>>>>>>>> internal to process further.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After the timeout has reached, the state is moved to Half-Open
>>>>>>>> state, and if the consecutive request pass to the server to process
>>>>>>>> (Attempt Reset), if success then close the circuit (Reset Breaker), If 
>>>>>>>> fail
>>>>>>>> then again move the state to the Open with a timeout value (Trip 
>>>>>>>> Breaker).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions regarding the above approach?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>> http://www.javaworld.com/article/2824163/application-performance/stability-patterns-applied-in-a-restful-architecture.html?page=2
>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>>>>> http://ssagara.blogspot.com/2015/05/timeout-and-circuit-breaker-pattern-in.html
>>>>>>>> [3]. https://pragprog.com/book/mnee/release-it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Aruna
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