My understanding from speaking to Dan Bandera (IBM's member of the OSGi BoD ) is that the OSGi Alliance BoD recognize that qualified not-for-profit organizations, such as ASF, have a need for OSGi Compliance Tests at no-charge, as evidenced by the Alliance's JSR 291 TCK license ( see: http://www.osgi.org/JSR291/TCK#nonprofitlicense ). I understand the Alliance has work in-progress now that will provide the OSGi Compliance Tests (which are undergoing OSGi member approval now) for the newly approved and published OSGi Service Platform Release 4 Version 4.2 Specifications under a similar license in the near future. If that license turns out to be acceptable to the ASF then we should be able to evolve to a position where we won't need a special mailing list for discussing finalized OSGi CTs.

Ian


Kevan Miller wrote:

On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Jeremy Hughes wrote:

2009/10/2 Alan D. Cabrera <[email protected]>:
Luckily there's a couple of Alliance members in this project who can perform
this task until things get sorted out.

In any case we'll need a TCK mailing list; I'll get that done. I'm not sure
how we'll vet membership.  David, since you're a chair maybe you could
provide a list?

Is there a precedent for a TCK mailing list on other Apache projects?
What are the rules for entry? What gets discussed there that can't be
discussed on the dev@ list? I just want to be clear on what we're
talking about.

Hi Jeremy,
Yes. There are TCK-specific mailing lists and TCK-specific SVN trees within Apache. Access is limited to Apache committers who have signed the following NDA -- http://www.apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf

TCK materials must be protected and kept private. Beyond PASS and FAIL, there are limits on detailed discussions of the tests on public mailing lists. Any specific discussions occur on the private TCK mailing list.


I'm guessing the purpose of a TCK mailing list would be to discuss
everything around running OSGi Compliance Tests, since I believe the
OSGi Alliance only allows its members to download (maybe there are
other levels of OSGi affiliation that would allow this too I don't
know).

What do other Apache projects do in this situation? Is there guidance
or are we breaking new ground (in particular with the OSGi). Hasn't
Felix come up against this before? What happens there?

It sounds like the Felix "project" is not running TCK tests. Rather, "individuals" (who are also members of the Alliance) are running TCK tests on the Felix code.

--kevan



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