Just out of curiosity: Is there a way to get the updated EEG Spec 
(as a non OSGi member) ? As an early adaptor of the OSGi JMX API 
I'm really curious about the changes in it.

...roland 

On 19.02.2010, at 14:21, adam wojtuniak wrote:

> About JMX:
> API needs to be updated (I will start on that next week) cause its out of
> date. When that will be done I don't see a problem to release JMX.
> All the functionality from the spec will be there.
> Requested improvements we can add with a new relaese.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adam
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Joe Bohn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I'd also like to see us release the sample applications but I think there
>> is at least one complication.  Both Blog Sample and AriesTrader generate
>> EBAs using different techniques - but both leverage the maven-antrun-plugin
>> to finally produce a file of type "eba".
>> 
>> I think the result is that the eba will not be available in a maven
>> repository.
>> 
>> One of the differences is that AriesTrader first generates a jar using the
>> maven-assembly-plugin and then copies this to an eba.  The jar will be
>> managed by maven and IIUC it should be deployable as an "application" even
>> with an extension of "jar" rather than "eba".  If that is correct then
>> perhaps delivery of an application jar is an acceptable approach for the 1st
>> release.  Unfortunately I haven't actually setup my equinox assembly to
>> deploy the eba yet - it still deploys all of the individual bundles.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd like to see at least those included:
>>> * blueprint
>>> * jmx
>>> * jndi
>>> * transaction
>>> 
>>> I don't think applications are really usable yet and I haven't really
>>> looked at JPA yet, so can't tell about it.
>>> The transaction component is functional and we've been using it mostly
>>> unchanged since a long time in ServiceMix.
>>> Do you have any particular concerns with it ? (I'm not talking about
>>> declarative transactions for blueprint, note).
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 04:19, Joe Bohn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the response (even while on vacation!) ... and for
>>>> volunteering
>>>> to be the release manager.  Your response helps me get a better picture
>>>> of
>>>> the plans.
>>>> 
>>>> I was really just interested in the general objectives and timing since
>>>> it
>>>> hadn't been discussed yet.  To get the release out in Feb means it will
>>>> be
>>>> delivered next week.  I'm afraid the hill might be a little too steep to
>>>> climb that quickly but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> The more communication the better.  It's important to get everybody
>>>> thinking
>>>> and planning along the same lines (or understand quickly if there are any
>>>> differences of opinion).  Knowing that you are thinking of creating a
>>>> release candidate next week means that we should be getting more
>>>> restrictive
>>>> on new content to avoid any unpleasant surprises.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't have any strong opinions on what should be in or out - but in
>>>> general it doesn't make sense to release things that aren't functional.
>>>> At
>>>> the moment I'm not sure what those are - but I suspect not all of the
>>>> components are fully functional yet (for example transaction).
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Joe, sorry I started setting myself up tuesday but am now out on
>>>>> vacation until monday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I think the 0.1 release should serve to get what we have
>>>>> right now in the respectable form the ASF requires. So 'must haves'
>>>>> are to get the build in the right shape to create the distribution
>>>>> files that are acceptable to the IPMC. I think each main area of the
>>>>> code deserves at least a README to describe what's possible. Since
>>>>> this is the first release there are likely a few unknowns - w.r.t
>>>>> timing I hope/expect to get the release out this in feb. If there are
>>>>> particular JIRAs or other issues you feel should be included please
>>>>> say. I'd like to rename the current JIRA version 1.0 to 0.1 and target
>>>>> issues for 0.1 appropriately and issues not for 0.1 to target a new
>>>>> 0.2 version. WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 February 2010 15:39, Joe Bohn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are your current thoughts and goals regarding the release and
>>>>>> potential
>>>>>> target dates?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it would be good if you could summarize your thoughts in an
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> perhaps on a page in the wiki that we can keep updated as we make
>>>>>> progress.
>>>>>> Of particular interest would be the content that we would like to see
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the first release (clarifying what we consider "must have" from "nice
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have"), the current status of that content, target dates for the
>>>>>> release,
>>>>>> and the process that we plan to use to generate the release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12 February 2010 09:39, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot.  Let us know if you need any help.
>>>>>>>> I guess if you take some notes, it would be interesting to put those
>>>>>>>> on the wiki.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Certainly will. It's been a while since I did one and the process has
>>>>>>> changed quite a bit :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:32, Jeremy Hughes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kevan, thanks. I volunteer to be release manager.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11 February 2010 16:38, Kevan Miller <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like the consensus is for a release with all components at a
>>>>>>>>>> 0.1
>>>>>>>>>> version number. Best to start with a simple versioning scheme, IMO.
>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't view a 0.1 blueprint release as an issue.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Showing the ability to generate an Apache release is an important
>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>> for the community. Would definitely like to see this happen...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We'll need a release manager. Any volunteers?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --kevan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Joe
>> 

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