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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (Ron da Silva)
2. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (vinton cerf)
3. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (b...@theworld.com)
4. Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Changes (ARIN)
5. Re: Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Changes
(Bill Woodcock)
6. Re: Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Changes
(David Farmer)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:06:19 -0400
From: Ron da Silva <ronald.v.dasi...@gmail.com>
To: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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Two implementation questions,
- Would the 10th ex-officio CEO seat be voting or not? Best practices say no,
especially in not-for-profit space.. but not a requirement. Issues either way..
- Would the exclusions for Board members be lifted or changed/updated (thought
there was another consult on that back at the end of last year..) to help
increase the ?diversity? pool?
-ron
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:33:44 -0400
From: vinton cerf <vgc...@gmail.com>
To: Ron da Silva <ronald.v.dasi...@gmail.com>
Cc: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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in the past, I have favored allowing Ex Officio members the right to vote
if they wish.
v
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Ron da Silva <ronald.v.dasi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Two implementation questions,
>
> - Would the 10th ex-officio CEO seat be voting or not? Best practices say
> no, especially in not-for-profit space.. but not a requirement. Issues
> either way..
>
> - Would the exclusions for Board members be lifted or changed/updated
> (thought there was another consult on that back at the end of last year..)
> to help increase the ?diversity? pool?
>
> -ron
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 14:42:51 -0400
From: b...@theworld.com
To: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
Cc: Mel Stotyn <mel.sto...@sjrb.ca>, "\<arin-consult\@arin.net\>"
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Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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I have no particular problem with expanding the board, let a thousand
flowers bloom (or ten anyhow.)
HOWEVER, my unsolicited idea is why not create either multiple kinds
of board positions, where by "multiple" I'm thinking two at least to
begin, voting/non-voting or similar.
Or another (small) "advisory" -- pick a word, let's not get hung up on
terminology -- board with enough teeth that it's not just token.
I'd argue, for starters, just being in the room and having a role and
access to the same information would be enough to make it more than
just token.
A lot of diversity depends on just being heard effectively as much as
specific voting/veto powers.
This idea would probably make more sense if the specific
diversifications desired were assigned to these new roles.
That could even be a transitional change, something to do for some
number of years, review the result, and take up expanding the board
per se, or not, at a later date.
P.S. I do realize this would be more work in terms of organizational
and by-laws changes, etc than just expanding the existing board. It's
not as simple as changing a number. The new structures would have to
be defined and incorporated into existing structures including no
doubt legal considerations (e.g., how would such a newly defined role
be indemnified?)
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 09:43:50 -0400
From: ARIN <i...@arin.net>
To: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule
Changes
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ARIN?s Strategic Plan calls for ARIN to recover costs in a fair and
equitable manner via appropriate
fees to maintain adequate funds for the long-term stability of the
organization. ARIN has increased operating costs in recent years to meet
customer demand for improved and broader services, and upon review, the
Board of Trustees has called for both strategic cost management by the
organization and some fee increases in order to preserve long-term
organizational reserves.
https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/stratplan-2018-2019.pdf
The ARIN Board is proposing the following fee changes:
* Increasing the annual registry maintenance fee paid by end users
for each IPv4 address block, IPv6 address block, and Autonomous System
Number (?ASN?) from $100 to $150 per object. Registration Services Plan
customers do not pay these annual registry maintenance fees as all
services are already covered in their plan.
* Increasing the annual Legacy maintenance fee for each IPv4 address
block and ASN from $100 to $150 per object ? i.e., the same change as
proposed for end-user maintenance fees. The Legacy maintenance fee is to
cover costs associated with Internet number resources held under a
Legacy Registration Services Agreement (?LRSA?). (Note also that some
very early LRSA agreements include a limit on the annual increase of
total maintenance fees; ARIN will implement any fee increase consistent
with the terms of those agreements.)
* Increasing the initial and annual registration fee for ARIN
Transfer Facilitators from $100 to $1,000, in order to cover rising
costs associated with services.
We are seeking community feedback on these modifications to ARIN?s Fee
schedule that we intend to implement sometime mid-year 2018.
This consultation will remain open for forty-five (45) days, after which
time the Board will evaluate community feedback and determine
appropriate changes to the fee schedule.
Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net.
Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net will close on 25 May 2018.
If you have any questions, please contact us at i...@arin.net.
Regards,
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 07:07:27 -0700
From: Bill Woodcock <wo...@pch.net>
To: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule
Changes
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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 6:43 AM, ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:
> ARIN has increased operating costs in recent years to meet
> customer demand for improved and broader services
The membership seem to be relatively clear that they?re not in favor of
scope-creep. And there are already 88 staff, the majority of whom are in
Engineering. The theory was that they were supposed to be temporary
contractors, doing one-time projects to automate ARIN registry functions. Yet
the ?temporary? part never seems to come to a conclusion.
Can you present the budget, and explain what specific new services you?re
proposing to perform with this additional money, and give us a status-update on
the progress being made toward specific goals by the existing 45 engineers?
-Bill
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 10:13:56 -0500
From: David Farmer <far...@umn.edu>
To: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule
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My initial impression is that these increases seem reasonable. However,
this announcement does not include any data to justify why these two
service areas are the focus for fee increases. Are these service areas
under recovering their associated costs? Are the increased operating costs
mentioned specifically related to these two service areas? Are there
projections for the increased revenue from these changes? Basically why is
it e
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:43 AM, ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:
> ARIN?s Strategic Plan calls for ARIN to recover costs in a fair and
> equitable manner via appropriate
> fees to maintain adequate funds for the long-term stability of the
> organization. ARIN has increased operating costs in recent years to meet
> customer demand for improved and broader services, and upon review, the
> Board of Trustees has called for both strategic cost management by the
> organization and some fee increases in order to preserve long-term
> organizational reserves.
>
> https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/stratplan-2018-2019.pdf
>
> The ARIN Board is proposing the following fee changes:
>
> * Increasing the annual registry maintenance fee paid by end users
> for each IPv4 address block, IPv6 address block, and Autonomous System
> Number (?ASN?) from $100 to $150 per object. Registration Services Plan
> customers do not pay these annual registry maintenance fees as all
> services are already covered in their plan.
> * Increasing the annual Legacy maintenance fee for each IPv4 address
> block and ASN from $100 to $150 per object ? i.e., the same change as
> proposed for end-user maintenance fees. The Legacy maintenance fee is to
> cover costs associated with Internet number resources held under a
> Legacy Registration Services Agreement (?LRSA?). (Note also that some
> very early LRSA agreements include a limit on the annual increase of
> total maintenance fees; ARIN will implement any fee increase consistent
> with the terms of those agreements.)
> * Increasing the initial and annual registration fee for ARIN
> Transfer Facilitators from $100 to $1,000, in order to cover rising
> costs associated with services.
>
> We are seeking community feedback on these modifications to ARIN?s Fee
> schedule that we intend to implement sometime mid-year 2018.
>
> This consultation will remain open for forty-five (45) days, after which
> time the Board will evaluate community feedback and determine
> appropriate changes to the fee schedule.
>
> Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net.
>
> Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net will close on 25 May 2018.
>
> If you have any questions, please contact us at i...@arin.net.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
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