On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jason, > > The point is: show me a specific /24 I can buy right now. If the > market is working well enough to seriously consider ditching the > needs-basis as Milton would have us do then here is a specific /24 > that armed with an ARIN needs approval I can go buy right now. So > ditch the competing theories and show me one.
Bill, I would not expect to find a huge pending market, since ARIN still has space in its free pool available and can satisfy your request for /24 if you meet the policy requirements. Having noted such, there are folks who are indeed standing by ready to provide resources into this growing market; in some cases, it may have taken organizations substantial effort to free up these blocks to have them now ready. >From <https://www.arin.net/resources/transfer_listing/listings.txt> - CIDR Blocks Listed for Transfer Quantity Block Size 9 /16 1 /13 There are presently 9 /16's which are definitely available and one /13. I do not know if any of those parties will consider providing you a /24 and breaking up these blocks as a result. Note - There are also likely other blocks available that various facilitators know about, as there is no requirement for parties to use the Specified Transfer Listing Service. > If there is one available, if it exists, then refusing to weaken the > so-called needs basis for buying it is flat-earth policy. We have > addresses there being underutilized *because* of ARIN policy. We > should iteratively weaken the needs basis for transfers until and > unless we reach a point where its too weak to keep out hoarders and > the market dries up. > > On the other hand, if I can't go buy a /24 right now then the current > market design is already insufficient to create liquidity. Milton has > no right to expect us to accept that with all controls released things > will magically work out. There are far too many historical examples > where things didn't. He can use his vaunted expertise to figure out > how to create market liquidity with the controls still in place before > we consider relaxing them. (I have no view on the draft policy under discussion, and am providing this information solely for accuracy of the community discussion of same.) FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
