lol. An Amen and two shut-ups!
OK, I’ll shut up.
From: Chris James
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:19 PM
To: Sweeting, John
Cc: John Curran ; Mike Burns ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition
ofIPv4NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)
Agreed.
Chris James
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Sweeting, John <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi,
If possible could we move this to a private conversation? This has all been
aired on PPML several times before and at this point it serves no purpose. If
we could please get back on track and focus on a current draft policy or
proposal and state reasons for support or non support it would be very much
appreciated.
Thanks,
John
From: John Curran <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:12 PM
To: Mike Burns <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Mike Burns <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition
ofIPv4NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)
On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
You may say "legally purchasing" rights, but I truly don't know what
these parties think
they purchased, since it can't be the ability to inject routes and
have them accepted
(no one can provide that) nor the right to use the entry in the
registry, when the
circumstances are contrary to policy.
I guess they figure they are buying what the Nortel bankruptcy judge called
the “exclusive right to use” the addresses.
Indeed, but those are rights which may be transferred in accordance with
policy. In the case
of Nortel, this was accomplished by ARIN working with Microsoft and
confirming compliance
and then removing our objection, a point which Nortel's own filing makes -
"10. Second, the
revisions reflected in the Amended Sale Agreement and Revised Order were the
result of
negotiations between Microsoft, ARIN and NNI and, accordingly, ARIN’s counsel
has
informed NNI that it does not oppose entry of the Revised Order. " <NNI
Docket #5280>
No problem buying the rights (that is, after all, what a transfer is) but you
also have to wait
for the approval before considering the deal "closed", just as in the Nortel
case.
Consider if the buyer of the radio station could begin and continue
broadcasting without regard to regulatory approval?
Does that make a listener un-hear a broadcast? Or would the incentives lead
to lots of wildcat radio stations pending approval?
The safest move is to finalize the sale upon the approval; claiming that it
is complete prior
to that point is rather innovative (and might even be considered fraud if
done knowingly...)
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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