Frankly, I don’t think blocking off existing players from getting space they need in order to save space for possible future entrants is good policy.
I do think we need to make sure that we avoid deadly embrace in the transfer market where new players can’t even get a transfer simply because they can’t get upstream space or meet some other prior-space requirement before being able to seek out space in the transfer market. However, I also think it is bad policy to make those policies any more liberal for transfers than they are for what is left of the ARIN free pool. Hence, I support something like what Scott has posted, but I believe it is necessary to remove the “transfer only” clause from it. Owen On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Bill Darte <[email protected]> wrote: > New entrants cannot hope to compete in a long term strategy with only limited > amounts of v4. So they will have to go to the transfer market if they need > more. Isn't the transfer market about enabling people who 'really want or > need' v4 that opportunity. But, I agree that having some v4 for start ups is > probably still a requirement for now, so I would consider a single small > block.....still, if v6 deployment is delayed longer than we hope, then the v4 > for new entrants may still run out. What do we do for those folks..... We > cannot continue to move the deck chairs to forestall the move to v6 > forever.... > > bd > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM, CJ Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, but it limits that use to strictly transitional technology deployment, > not general IPv4 utilization. > > > I think this is something we should be discussing. Right now the only post > run out policy ARIN has is for the last /10. You can get a block (very > small) out of this for transition technologies only. There is no provision > for new entrants except the transfer market in the ARIN region. > > So some of us, and Scott started the discussion going, want to clean up the > policy manual so that it makes sense for ARIN post run out. We could also > make a policy like in the other regions that gives a specific size block to > everyone (or maybe just new entrants?) out of some of the last space. If we > are going to add the second option then time is really short. > > we made the final /10 policy a very long time ago and maybe not everyone > realizes it is just for transition? Do people still think this makes sense? > > Thanks! > ----Cathy > > > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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