On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Matthew Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see a *documented* 40% abandon rate on 8.2 transfer requests as "fear > mongering". I strongly suspect that every single one of those abandoned > requests is a case where a M&A *actually happened* and yet, because it was > abandoned, the registry no longer accurately reflects that M&A activity. (I > really can't imagine anyone who would simply, for entertainment value, file > 8.2 M&A transfer requests when no M&A has occurred.) Actually, as noted earlier, it is quite common for parties to start an transfer request when there is no M&A activity. We get those from folks who are simply the contacts on an address block (which may or may not be legitimate depending on the actual origin of the block, e.g. was it assigned to a DBA entity of the contact which somehow has morphed over time and is now operating under another name?); it occurs when organizations that think they were permanently assigned address space from their ISP come to "update it" to their most recent organization name; and it happens when companies come in to clean up their long-neglected records, as was noted previously. All of these may result in what looks to be an NRPM 8.2 transfer request without any actual recent M&A activity. In the case where there has been an actual M&A transfer, ARIN works very hard (as Gary Buhrmaster noted in his earlier message) with the requestor to get the records updated, and with out-of-date records this can indeed involve several validation steps to make sure that we're not updating the registry in error. There are also those who may get nervous during the registration service agreement and utilization discussion who decide that the effort or risk is not worth continuing the process. None of this is a recommendation for keeping the present policy, but simply to make sure that community understands how the 40% NRPM 8.2 abandonment rate number covers quite a range of circumstances. Note that ARIN is unlikely to be able to provide any more detailed objective measures, as the counts of "those who actually had past M&A activity and then abandoned due to the effort" compared to the counts of "those who claimed M&A activity and then abandoned due to the effort" (i.e. actually a hijacking deterred) are the same transaction when viewed from ARIN's side. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
