You are correct, David… We should restore the anti-flip language that prohibits 
an organization which received a transfer from subsequently being a provider 
for any transfer within 24 months.

Owen

> On May 27, 2015, at 12:38 AM, David Huberman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> So basically, you'd like to do an end run around the law in China and it 
>> would
>> be oh so helpful if ARIN would cooperate?
> 
> ???
> 
> For clarity:
> 
> Statement 1: If you acquire a block on the open market and transfer it into 
> your ARIN account, NRPM 8.4 locks it into ARIN for 2 years.
> 
> Statement 2: If you need to operate in China and get Chinese transit or 
> peering, Chinese law requires the prefix being announced be registered in 
> CNNIC.
> 
> Statement 1 was intended to prevent flipping/speculating. 
> Statement 2 is Chinese internet policy.
> 
> A bad actor gets around Statement 1 by transferring the block to a different 
> OrgID in ARIN via NRPM 8.2.  Once that transfer occurs, the block in the 
> different OrgID is not subject to Statement 1 . Flipping/speculation can now 
> occur. 
> 
> A good actor has no choice but to get around Statement 1 by transferring the 
> block to a different OrgID in ARIN via NRPM 8.2, then doing an inter-RIR 
> transfer to APNIC (and then to CNNIC).  BGP can now occur.
> 
> In either case, Statement 1 is no-op.
> 
> 
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