And so we're back to John's question of weeks ago: why is "needs basis" the right test in a transfer-only world? As he pointed out, if we'd started only with transfers, it would have been an extremely unlikely means of regulation.

Is it simply because "the community" (all dozen or so, I gather) is so familiar with needs testing that it has become a comfortable religious fallback?

Matthew Kaufman
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On 6/23/2015 5:39 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
I am opposed to this proposal.

It is yet another attempt to chip away at needs basis by those seeking to provide for unlimited and unrestricted transfers.

The community has repeatedly indicated that the preservation of needs basis is important and virtually every proposal
seeking to eliminate it has been rebuffed by the community.

This proposal should, IMHO, be recognized for what it is… A clear effort to reduce the needs-basis requirements for transfers.

Owen

On Jun 23, 2015, at 17:31 , Scott Leibrand <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Matthew Kaufman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 6/23/2015 1:06 PM, ARIN wrote:

        Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7
        Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers


    I support this policy, but would be even happier if we simply had
    a trigger that said "when ARIN is out of IPv4 addresses, this
    simplified policy replaces all other tests for IPv4 transfers and
    the other sections are inactive until such time as ARIN has a new
    large free pool of IPv4 addresses (never)"


The main reason we didn't write a replacement for section 4 is this:

    Organizations that do not meet the simplified criteria above may
    instead demonstrate the need for number resources using the
    criteria in section 4 of the NRPM.


There will likely be some sections of the community who feel that their particular need for IPv4 is better met under section 4 than under this simplified policy. Rather than trying to identify every such need and write in exceptions, I felt it would be better to first allow everyone using the transfer market to opt out of section 4 entirely, and then once we have some experience with which requests actually still end up using section 4, we will have some data on which parts of it we need to keep and which can be eliminated in a simplification cleanup proposal.

-Scott

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