> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of ARIN > Sent: 9 September 2015 6:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use - revised >
> Current policy neither clearly forbids nor clearly permits out of region > use of ARIN registered resources. This has created confusion and > controversy within the ARIN community for some time. Earlier work on this > issue has explored several options to restrict or otherwise limit out of > region use. None of these options have gained consensus within the > community. The next logical option is a proposal that clearly permits out > of region use while addressing the key concerns expressed about unlimited > openness to out of region use and enables ARIN staff to implement the > policy efficiently. I'm sorry but I don't see that lack of consensus on restriction means that you are going to be more successful in getting consensus on permission, nor that that is a logical option. What problem are you trying to solve? Why is having an area of doubt and uncertainty causing an operational difficulty for the community, or ARIN staff? Note: confusion and controversy in of itself doesn't mandate finding a solution... that sounds more like politics to me This seems like policy making for the sake of it. > A real and substantial connection shall be defined as carrying on business > in the ARIN region in a meaningful manner, whether for or not for profit. > The determination as to whether an entity is carrying on business in the > ARIN region in a meaningful manner shall be made by ARIN. Simply being > incorporated in the ARIN region shall not be sufficient, on its own, to > prove that an entity is carrying on business in the ARIN region in a > meaningful manner. Methods that entities may consider using, including > cumulatively, to prove that they are carrying on business in the ARIN > region in a meaningful manner include: > * Demonstrating a physical presence in the ARIN region through a bricks > and mortar location that is actually used for the purposes of conducting > business in the ARIN region in a meaningful manner. That is to say, the > location is not merely a registered office that serves no other business > purpose. > * Demonstrating that the entity has staff in the ARIN region. The greater > the number of staff, the stronger this connecting factor is. > * Demonstrating that the entity holds assets in the ARIN region. The > greater the asset value, the stronger this connecting factor is. > * Demonstrating that the entity provides services to or solicits sales > from residents of the ARIN region. > * Demonstrating that the entity holds annual meetings in the ARIN region. > * Demonstrating that the entity raises investment capital from investors > in the ARIN region. > * Demonstrating that the entity has a registered office in the ARIN > region, although this factor on its own shall not be sufficient. > * Any other method that the entity considers appropriate. > The weight accorded to any of the above-noted factors, if any, shall be > determined solely by ARIN. Wow; really. The first part seems to contain a lot of words and redundancy, the next part requires ARIN staff to exercise a lot of work. You're allowing an applicant to snow you under with irrelevant information, and then allowing ARIN staff to ignore it. Seems like that will generate a lot of controversy when an application is denied under this section. Richard Letts _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
