It appears to me that you are still trying to somehow save IPv4 from 
exhaustion. That horse is out of the barn and gone.

Steven Ryerse
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Stephen Sprunk
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based 
evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

On 25-Sep-15 12:48, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Owens comment from below:
>
> “2. To the extent that there is supply, anyone who needs addresses
> can get them already. Needs-based evaluation does not prevent those
> with need from getting addresses… It prevents those without need from
> getting them.”
>
> Owen’s comment is absolutely false!!!!!  It allows large organizing
> who request resources to get what they need or something smaller.  It
> allows medium size organizations who request resources to get what
> they need or something smaller.  It allows small organizations who
> request resources to get what they need or nothing, and there is no
> other source to get resources if ARIN rejects a request, but the open
> market which Owen and others seem to wish did not exist!
>
> It is time to fix this inequity and removing needs tests would be a
> big help to small organizations who really need resources!

If they actually need the resources, then a needs-based policy does not present 
an obstacle.  Where's the problem?

However, not having such a policy will mean that folks who _don't_ need 
resources can also get them, which makes the (IPv4) scarcity problem even worse 
than it already is.  That benefits speculators at the expense of those who 
actually need resources.

You appear to be arguing against your stated interests.

S

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