On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:15 PM, John Curran 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Dani Roisman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

That’s just billing buckets then, not really based on actual transfer activity. 
 Maybe it will help to look at more relevant data?

ARIN staff watching - could you point me to any published statistics for 
transfers over the past 18 months, or if not could you generate them and share? 
 I’m thinking this is a good start:

1)      Number of transfers requests for each block size for 8.3 and 8.4 
transfers which completed.  e.g. “/20 = qty 15, /19 = qty 5, /18 = qty 10”

The list of transfers completed is available online here -
<https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/transfers.html>

2)      Number of transfers requests for each block size for 8.3 and 8.4 
transfers which were closed without completion, specifically where need was not 
met

This may not be possible, but we will see what statistics are available
regarding transfers not completed (the reason that “specifically where
need not met” may not be meaningful is because such requests often
close due to prolonged lack of response while awaiting documentation
or because they’re closed by the original requester but not otherwise
distinguished, etc.)

Unfortunately, we do not have any readily-available way to correlate the
not-completed tickets with intended block size.  We do have overall
transfer ticket closure statistics available.

8.3 / 8.2 Ticket statistics to date -

153  8.3 tickets closed
106  completed (69%)
  37  withdrawn (24%)
    4  duplicate (3%)
    3  abandoned (2%)
    3  closed for another reason (2%)

   82 8.2 tickets closed
   68 completed (83%)
   12 withdrawn (15%)
     1 duplicate (1%)
     1 other (1%)

If one presumes that demonstration of need is a more significant concern
for 8.3 transfers (generalization, but plausible) _and_ that there was no
other significant factor (lots of hand-waving at this point), then there is a
9% withdrawal rate (and potentially 2% abandoned rate)  that one might
bravely attribute to the consequences of needs-assessment.

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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