Owen: You do not need to reply me in each list and while only in ARIN, the answer seems reasonable.
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > WHile the RIR does not need to be notified, it will effectively be > notified when > the WHOIS records are updated to reflect location B, assuming that the > entire > block is moved to location B. > > Owen > > > On Dec 3, 2015, at 06:40 , John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Lu - > > > > Bill and Jason’s remarks fairly reflect current policy - if you have a > specific request > > that you need clarification with, please contact the Registration > Services Helpdesk > > at ARIN. > > > > Thanks! > > /John > > > >> On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:34 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> Sorry for the wording ripe, the question was intended for Arin policy, > so under Arin current policy, does two example raised considered invalid > the need? > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 3 Dec 2015, at 3:26 PM, Jason Schiller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> One clarification on Bill's email. > >>> > >>>> From ARIN's perspective (as I understand it) the answer is: > >>>> > >>>> 1. No, the RIR does not need to be notified, BUT... > >>>> > >>>> 2. If the new locations are no longer in ARIN territory, those > >>>> addresses are counted as unused the next time that organization wants > >>>> addresses from ARIN. As a result, the organization may not qualify for > >>>> more addresses. > >>> > >>> If the IP addresses are used outside of the ARIN service region, but > >>> part of a globally contagious network that exists in part in the ARIN > >>> service region and the covering aggregate is announced from within the > >>> ARIN service region (also announcing the aggregate and / or more > >>> specific outside of the ARIN service region is acceptable), the the > >>> addresses can be considered utilized (assuming they meet ARIN's > >>> definition of in use). > >>> > >>> If the IPs are for servers in a data center that is a stub network > >>> which is not contagious with a network in the ARIN service region then > >>> those IPs would not count as in use. If you total utilization is > >>> below 80% you would not qualify for more IP space. > >>> > >>> Bill, and my comments are based an multiple interactions with ARIN and > >>> Public Policy Meeting discussions surrounding "out of region use". > >>> > >>> If you truely want to know what if ARIN staff would consider a use > >>> case as justified, you should directly engage the ARIN staff. > >>> > >>> https://www.arin.net/contact_us.html > >>> > >>> __Jason > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:13 AM, William Herrin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Lu Heng <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> Company A provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location > A, Ripe > >>>>> makes an assignment for 100 IP for his infrastructure, if, under > condition > >>>>> that no other factor was changed, Company A moved his infrastructure > to > >>>>> location B, but still providing same service to same customer, does > the > >>>>> company's action need to be notified to RIR? > >>>>> > >>>>> Company A provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 > location, and > >>>>> has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR during the time > the > >>>>> company getting valid assignment, then A decided to cut 3 location > to 2 > >>>>> location, does this invalid original assignment and need to be > notified to > >>>>> RIR? > >>>> > >>>> Hi Lu, > >>>> > >>>>> From ARIN's perspective (as I understand it) the answer is: > >>>> > >>>> 1. No, the RIR does not need to be notified, BUT... > >>>> > >>>> 2. If the new locations are no longer in ARIN territory, those > >>>> addresses are counted as unused the next time that organization wants > >>>> addresses from ARIN. As a result, the organization may not qualify for > >>>> more addresses. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Bill Herrin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> William Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] > >>>> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... 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