On May 12, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Jason Schiller <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am surprised that staff would not apply the 30 day need (albeit extended to > 60 day need) for end-sites requesting a transfer. > > My understanding is that 8.3 references "demonstrating need" "under current > policies" albeit extended to 24 months (double an ARIN assignment). > > Current policy 4.3.3 defines meeting 25% utilization immediately (30 days) > and 50% within 1 year. > Extended this doubles the values. > > This is also seems to be consistent with what I heard at the meeting: > > "Kevin Blumberg: The question was, to clarify for everybody, when it comes > -- this policy is in reference to free pool space. When you take into account > that almost every request will now be based on transfer via 8.3 or 8.4, which > has a 24-month, can you explain how staff calculates in transfers versus what > -- when somebody is just reading and saying 25 percent over 30 days, how does > that now work with a 24-month transfer? > > John Curran: It still requires them to use 25 percent of the block being > transferred. Now, this is the unfortunate circumstance of having transfer > policies which chained to needs assessment which come from allocation and > assignment policies in elsewhere in the NRPM. > > When the AC has some free time, if it would like to unwind those, that would > be greatly appreciated." > > I trust ARIN is very good at finding fraud and abuse, however I think this > change makes fraud and abuse (or as Owen put it simply having dreams of > grandeur [note this was wrt 2015-9 but it applies equally here].) makes it > much harder to catch as per Jonh's comments when discussing this policy. > > "John Curran: We can go back on the present policy and confirm that someone > has done the utilization that they claim they do, but it's much more > difficult to know whether or not someone has made a fraudulent request if we > don't check shortly after we've assigned to them. > > In other words, someone will find address space utilization within a year one > way or the other. But whether or not they're valid for what we assigned is > much easier to determine if they've made use of it within the first 30 days, > or 30 days, 60 days, the immediate future." > > Can staff comment do you apply the 25% need in 60 days to specified > transfers? Or is this ignored and obsolete?
Jason - ARIN does not, by default, go back to the organization afterwards and confirm that they have met the 25% utilization requirement, but organizations must conform to policy and thus it remains a valid criteria if we should review a request later (e.g. as a a result of a fraud report.) Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
