So the world is better off (at least FIB-utilization-wize, and probably in 
dollars expended on lawyers and escrow agents) if I buy one /12 that I can't 
prove a need for under current policy, instead of buying a /20-/22 every few 
weeks that does pass the needs test.

Explain why we have arbitrary "needs testing" again?

Matthew Kaufman

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> On May 19, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 19, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I want community members to understand that this is evidence that the market 
>> is a natural conserver of valuable resources.
> 
> Help me understand what evidence you see that any market has ever conserved 
> expensive FIB slots.
> 
>> ...and naturally elevates them to a higher and better use.
> 
> It seems to me that this is the same fallacy upon which inter-provider QoS 
> ran aground.  Just because something was valuable and expensive to Party A, 
> and Party A exchanges traffic with Party B, there’s no reason why the same 
> thing would be valued by Party B, who has their own concerns.  Thus, the fact 
> that Party A buys an address block for a lot of money may make routing that 
> address block very important to Party A, but that’s independent of Party B’s 
> interest in receiving that routing announcement or wasting a FIB slot on it.  
> Thus, the money has been spent, but nothing has been elevated to a higher or 
> better use; it may in fact not be usable at all, outside the context of 
> needs-based allocation of FIB slots.
> 
>> Thus reducing the actual importance of these “angels-on-the-heads-of-pins” 
>> discussions about utilization periods or parsing the application of free 
>> pool allocation language in its application to transfers.
> 
> I agree that there’s a lot of cruft that’s built up by people who weren’t 
> intent upon using concise language in policy development, and who failed to 
> remove or update language before slathering more over the top of it.  
> However, that in no way invalidates the basic requirement for regulation to 
> defend the commons (global routing table size) against the competing 
> interests of individuals (more smaller prefixes routed).
> 
> Both are valuable.  They’re naturally opposed interests.  Any useful 
> discussion of either one must be in terms of the trade-off against the other. 
>  You’re discussing only one of the two; only half of an inextricably linked 
> conversation.
> 
>                                -Bill
> 
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