Cathy, I know that this has nothing to do with the list. Has to do with me. It 
is clear now that my messages reaches all the members. Due to your concern you 
deserve explanations and thanks. You, as a photographer you are, use your eyes, 
your emotion, and then your finger. I first use the finger, straight into the 
wound.

Chris, ARIN dealt with it correctly, they just did not know where the problem 
was. Probably due to my lousy English, I think.

My reasons:
I am not a ISP owner. I am not a IT Professional, I am just a citizen, Urban 
Architect, worry about spam and scam. And I am talking about 420 billion of 
spam and scam PER DAY. I will always be intolerant of any action or policy that 
benefits spammers or increase the spam traffic on the Internet.

I'll tell you what would happen if I stayed on that list.
Soon, some ISP owners would ask for my banishment, others would call me troll. 
If anyone here is a member of RIPE anti-abuse-wg it would certainly confirm it.

Not that I'm worried about what some greedy sociopath will say. It turns out 
that when this happening I will get a bit paranoid and I will ask myself if my 
messages are being censored. If I do not receive my messages via ARIN-ppml due 
to Gmail, how will I know? Switching email is out of the question. It is my 
brand, my id.

If it is for the good of all and the general happiness of the ARIN Nation, tell 
the people that I am out.

Thanks for your concern,
Marilson

From: Chris James 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:03 PM
To: Marilson 
Cc: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy proposal in AFRINIC

I think from a technical perspective ARIN did handle this entirely correct. 
They took your concern and used standard methods to ensure proper delivery. The 
behavior you are unhappy with is a result of google's attempt to oversimplify 
the end user's life. Perhaps submit a feature request to gmail and ask that 
functionality be optional? (link below) 

The only affect is would have on you would be not seeing your original email in 
your inbox, it is still in your sent "folder". Not sure how that affects 
subscription to the list, or common reasons to be involved?

Gmail - Request a feature: 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/V_U7zBUZ8G4;context-place=forum/gmail


On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Marilson <[email protected]> wrote:

  Dear Robert, Cathy, Chris and Michael,

  Thanks for clarifying the Gmail vs mailing lists problem.

  I hope ARIN's staff has learned and now they know how to explain it at 
another opportunity.

  Since there is no way to change this behavior I am out of this list.

  Greetings to all and good work.
  Marilson

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