Well, when I say nothing is done, I mean the abuse continues after the report is made to the contact listed in SWIP/WHOIS.

If you were the administrator and you did what you said after a report, I would see the abuse stopped (in this case simply beacuse you cut that user off), I would consider that a success, not a failure. When I send a report, stopping the abuse is more important than an email response.

I average about 50/50 on abuse reports to other networks that are doing things like dictionary attacks on my server. Usually I simply blacklist the IP involved, but I can still see the connection attempts continue. At that point is when I send a report. If a reasonable time goes by and I still have not seen the connection attempts stop, I see this as ignoring abuse reports, and this is what I speak of.

I do not require a response to know if the report was dealt with. I consider the stopping of the bad behavior to be the indicator.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.


On Mon, 12 Jun 2017, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



On 6/3/2017 4:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
If enforcement of SWIP would result in the elimination of network abuse,
I would not speak against it. However, even with valid contacts in SWIP,
abuse reports are ignored.


You have NO proof of that.

If you contacted me at one of my abuse contacts and I investigated and discovered a bad user and gave them the boot, I wouldn't contact you back. The reason? I don't have any assurance that you aren't the bad user I'm booting (or a proxy of theirs) trying to get information on how
I police my servers.

Ted
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