I am opposed to this policy.

From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Chris Woodfield
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:19 PM
To: Cj Aronson <c...@daydream.com>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement 
for Inter-RIR Transfers

This policy proposal seems, to me, as an attempt to correct a historical 
imbalance in the distribution of IPv4 resources to various RIRs, since the vast 
majority of legacy space - which, to my eyes, it seems that much of the 
transfer supply is originating from - is in the ARIN region.

Given that, this policy only makes sense up to the point that such imbalance 
still exists. If we simply named the target RIRs, we could result in a 
(arguably theoretical) situation where Afrinic and Lacnic wind up transferring 
enough space to push their totals over the average but are still permitted to 
transfer space. if that were to happen, it would require a subsequent policy 
change to keep that imbalance from growing worse.

As such, I support as written and would argue against an approach that targets 
specific RIRs by name.

-C

On Sep 6, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Cj Aronson 
<c...@daydream.com<mailto:c...@daydream.com>> wrote:

Okay so this formula.. does it just give us Afrinic and Lacnic right?  So why 
don't we just say that?  Since there are only 5 RIRs it seems that maybe a 
formula isn't needed?


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On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:35 PM, ARIN <i...@arin.net<mailto:i...@arin.net>> 
wrote:
The following has been revised:

* Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR 
Transfers

Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate 
the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft policy with 
ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy 
Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html

Regards,

Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Version Date: 6 September 2017

Problem Statement:

AFRINIC and LACNIC are currently considering one-way inter-RIR transfer 
proposals. Those RIR communities feel a one-way policy a policy that allows 
network operators in their regions to obtain space from another region and 
transfer it into AFRINIC and LACNIC may best meet the needs of the operators in 
that region.

ARIN staff, in reply to an inquiry from AFRINIC, have formally indicated that 
ARINs 8.4 policy language will not allow ARIN to participate in such one-way 
transfers. The staff formally indicate to AFRINIC that the word reciprocal in 
8.4 prohibits ARIN from allowing ARIN-registered space to transfer directly to 
AFRINIC (in this context).

ARIN as a community should recognize that other RIR operator communities have 
different needs than we do. We should recognize that:

- network operators in AFRINIC in LACNIC have need to obtain space in the 
market;

- have reasons they think are important to not allow two-way transfers; and

- we should understand that the history of the RIR system has led to LACNIC and 
AFRINIC having multiple orders of magnitude less IPv4 address space than ARIN 
does.

Policy statement:

Add the following sentence after the first sentence of NRPM 8.4:

Inter-RIR transfers may take place to an RIR with a non-reciprocal inter-RIR 
transfer policy only when the recipient RIR has an IPv4 total inventory less 
than the average (mean) of the IPv4 total inventory among all of the RIRs.

Timetable for implementation: Upon the ratification of any inter-RIR transfer 
policy at another RIR that is one-way as described in the problem statement.
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