Which leads to the question as to why… a policy proposal to allow for outbound 
transfers as well as inbound in those regions would render this policy moot. Is 
there any sense of the appetite for such a proposal in either region, or would 
it be perceived as having the potential to result in even more IP space leaving 
those regions (due to deeper pockets in the transfer market in other regions)?

-C

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Neither LACNIC nor AfriNIC have currently passed or implemented an inter-RIR 
> transfer policy.
> 
> All Inter-RIR policies that have been considered in either region have been 
> unilateral inbound-only to the best of my knowledge.
> 
> Owen
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 05:30 , Kevin Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Are there active polices in the other regions that rely on this policy? I 
>> understand there have been discussions, however I don't know what the status 
>> is/was. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Kevin Blumberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ARIN
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:36 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement 
>> for Inter-RIR Transfers
>> 
>> The following has been revised:
>> 
>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR 
>> Transfers
>> 
>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html
>> 
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft 
>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated 
>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>> 
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> * Technically Sound
>> * Supported by the Community
>> 
>> The PDP can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>> 
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sean Hopkins
>> Policy Analyst
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR 
>> Transfers
>> 
>> Version Date: 6 September 2017
>> 
>> Problem Statement:
>> 
>> AFRINIC and LACNIC are currently considering one-way inter-RIR transfer 
>> proposals. Those RIR communities feel a one-way policy a policy that allows 
>> network operators in their regions to obtain space from another region and 
>> transfer it into AFRINIC and LACNIC may best meet the needs of the operators 
>> in that region.
>> 
>> ARIN staff, in reply to an inquiry from AFRINIC, have formally indicated 
>> that ARINs 8.4 policy language will not allow ARIN to participate in such 
>> one-way transfers. The staff formally indicate to AFRINIC that the word 
>> reciprocal in 8.4 prohibits ARIN from allowing ARIN-registered space to 
>> transfer directly to AFRINIC (in this context).
>> 
>> ARIN as a community should recognize that other RIR operator communities 
>> have different needs than we do. We should recognize that:
>> 
>> - network operators in AFRINIC in LACNIC have need to obtain space in the 
>> market;
>> 
>> - have reasons they think are important to not allow two-way transfers; and
>> 
>> - we should understand that the history of the RIR system has led to LACNIC 
>> and AFRINIC having multiple orders of magnitude less IPv4 address space than 
>> ARIN does.
>> 
>> Policy statement:
>> 
>> Add the following sentence after the first sentence of NRPM 8.4:
>> 
>> Inter-RIR transfers may take place to an RIR with a non-reciprocal inter-RIR 
>> transfer policy only when the recipient RIR has an IPv4 total inventory less 
>> than the average (mean) of the IPv4 total inventory among all of the RIRs.
>> 
>> Timetable for implementation: Upon the ratification of any inter-RIR 
>> transfer policy at another RIR that is one-way as described in the problem 
>> statement.
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