If they allow bidirectional transfers, then this would be moot because the reciprocity requirement would no longer block anything and this change would be a no-op.
However, yes, within those regions, there is significant pandering to a vocal minority that is afraid of space leaving their region due to deeper pockets elsewhere. Owen > On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:31 , Chris Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote: > > Which leads to the question as to why… a policy proposal to allow for > outbound transfers as well as inbound in those regions would render this > policy moot. Is there any sense of the appetite for such a proposal in either > region, or would it be perceived as having the potential to result in even > more IP space leaving those regions (due to deeper pockets in the transfer > market in other regions)? > > -C > >> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Neither LACNIC nor AfriNIC have currently passed or implemented an inter-RIR >> transfer policy. >> >> All Inter-RIR policies that have been considered in either region have been >> unilateral inbound-only to the best of my knowledge. >> >> Owen >> >>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 05:30 , Kevin Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Are there active polices in the other regions that rely on this policy? I >>> understand there have been discussions, however I don't know what the >>> status is/was. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin Blumberg >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ARIN >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:36 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement >>> for Inter-RIR Transfers >>> >>> The following has been revised: >>> >>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR >>> Transfers >>> >>> Revised text is below and can be found at: >>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html >>> >>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft >>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated >>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: >>> >>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >>> * Technically Sound >>> * Supported by the Community >>> >>> The PDP can be found at: >>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html >>> >>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sean Hopkins >>> Policy Analyst >>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >>> >>> >>> >>> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR >>> Transfers >>> >>> Version Date: 6 September 2017 >>> >>> Problem Statement: >>> >>> AFRINIC and LACNIC are currently considering one-way inter-RIR transfer >>> proposals. Those RIR communities feel a one-way policy a policy that allows >>> network operators in their regions to obtain space from another region and >>> transfer it into AFRINIC and LACNIC may best meet the needs of the >>> operators in that region. >>> >>> ARIN staff, in reply to an inquiry from AFRINIC, have formally indicated >>> that ARINs 8.4 policy language will not allow ARIN to participate in such >>> one-way transfers. The staff formally indicate to AFRINIC that the word >>> reciprocal in 8.4 prohibits ARIN from allowing ARIN-registered space to >>> transfer directly to AFRINIC (in this context). >>> >>> ARIN as a community should recognize that other RIR operator communities >>> have different needs than we do. We should recognize that: >>> >>> - network operators in AFRINIC in LACNIC have need to obtain space in the >>> market; >>> >>> - have reasons they think are important to not allow two-way transfers; and >>> >>> - we should understand that the history of the RIR system has led to LACNIC >>> and AFRINIC having multiple orders of magnitude less IPv4 address space >>> than ARIN does. >>> >>> Policy statement: >>> >>> Add the following sentence after the first sentence of NRPM 8.4: >>> >>> Inter-RIR transfers may take place to an RIR with a non-reciprocal >>> inter-RIR transfer policy only when the recipient RIR has an IPv4 total >>> inventory less than the average (mean) of the IPv4 total inventory among >>> all of the RIRs. >>> >>> Timetable for implementation: Upon the ratification of any inter-RIR >>> transfer policy at another RIR that is one-way as described in the problem >>> statement. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PPML >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN >>> Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PPML >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). 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