It sounds like our recollections of what we intended for ISP initial allocations have diverged. I will admit when I drafted the problem statement I did not go back through email to see if there was anything about this issue.
Assuming we harmonize the problem statement, would you prefer the /24 as initial no questions asked size or a /21? What do others prefer? .Andrew > On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Scott Leibrand <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe this problem statement is incorrect, and therefore oppose the > policy proposal as-is. > > 8.5.4 was intended (by me, as one of the authors, and in PPML discussions I > just pulled up) to allow ISPs to transfer a /24 without justification. It > was *not* intended to "match the previous policy" in 4.2.2. > > 8.5.5 reads "8.5.5. Block size > Organizations may qualify for the transfer of a larger initial block, or an > additional block, by providing documentation to ARIN which details the use of > at least 50% of the requested IPv4 block size within 24 months. An officer of > the organization shall attest to the documentation provided to ARIN." > > The intention was that any ISP needing a /21 would need to "provide > documentation to ARIN which details the use of at least 50% of the requested > IPv4 block size within 24 months", with officer attestation to same. > > If that policy is deemed insufficient, and we believe it's better to allow > transfers of up to /21 without providing documentation to ARIN and officer > attestation of such, then this proposal would need to be re-written with a > new problem statement justifying that. > > -Scott > >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 2:40 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 16 November 2017, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced "ARIN-prop-244: >> Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP Transfers" to Draft Policy >> status. >> >> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9 is below and can be found at: >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html >> >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft >> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated >> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: >> >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >> * Technically Sound >> * Supported by the Community >> >> The PDP can be found at: >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html >> >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Hopkins >> Policy Analyst >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >> >> >> >> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP >> Transfers >> >> Problem Statement: >> >> It was noted at the ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report, that there is an >> inconsistency in the initial block size for ISPs. Section 4.2.2 notes that >> the initial ISP block size should be /21 whereas the initial block size in >> 8.5.4 is noted as "minimum transfer size" which is effectively a /24. The >> intent of the new 8.5.4 was to match the previous policy. This policy is >> intended to clarify this issue. It was noted that ARIN staff current >> operational practice is to allow ISPs an initial /21 for Section 8 transfers. >> >> Policy statement: >> >> Add the following to 8.5.4 >> >> ISP organizations without direct assignments or allocations from ARIN >> qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /21. >> >> Comments: >> >> a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate >> _______________________________________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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