On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:31 PM David Farmer <far...@umn.edu> wrote:

> I need more input from the community on this one.  Unless you are one of
> the two people who has responded already, please take time to respond to
> the following questions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:18 PM, David Farmer <far...@umn.edu> wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a bit of controversy on the direction to take this
>> policy.  Therefore as the shepherd, it would be helpful to hear from
>> additional community members regarding this policy.
>>
>> Do you support or oppose the policy as written?
>>
>
I support the document as written.


>
>> Do you think the inconsistency described in the Problem Statement should
>> be corrected?
>>
>
Yes it should be corrected.


>
>> If yes, should it be corrected by revising by section 8.5.4 to be
>> consistent with section 4.2.2, as proposed by the current text?
>>
>>
Correct as suggested in 8.5.4.



> Or, as an alternative by revising section 4.2.2 to be consistent with
>> section 8.5.4?
>>
>> Are there other alternatives to correct the inconsistency to be
>> considered?
>>
>> Other suggestions or comments?
>>
>>

Whichever section is chosen it should be corrected in one or the other for
clarity. As written in section 8.5.4 makes the most sense to me.


> Your additional feedback and participation are appreciated, thank you.
>>
>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM, ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The following has been revised:
>>>
>>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4
>>> ISP Transfers
>>>
>>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html
>>>
>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
>>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
>>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>>
>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>> * Technically Sound
>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>
>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4
>>> ISP Transfers
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> It was noted in the ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report, that there is an
>>> inconsistency in the initial block size for ISPs. Section 4.2.2 notes that
>>> the initial ISP block size should be /21 whereas the initial block size in
>>> 8.5.4 is noted as "minimum transfer size" which is effectively a /24. This
>>> causes ISP organizations to be approved for different initial block size
>>> depending on if they first apply for a transfer directly under section 8 or
>>> if they apply for a block under section 4.  This policy is intended to
>>> clarify this issue, by setting a consistent ISP initial IPv4 block size. It
>>> was noted that ARIN staff current operational practice is to allow
>>> qualified ISPs an initial /21 for Section 8 transfers when they first apply
>>> and are approved under section 4.  If an organization applies under section
>>> 8 first they are initially qualified for a /24; larger allocations require
>>> additional documentation as noted in 8.5.5.
>>>
>>> Policy statement:
>>>
>>> Replace section 8.5.4;
>>>
>>> 8.5.4. Initial block
>>>
>>> Organizations without direct assignments or allocations from ARIN
>>> qualify for the transfer of an initial IPv4 block, a /24 for assignments or
>>> a /24 up to a /21 for allocations.
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>>>
>>> Anything Else:
>>>
>>> The ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report is available at;
>>>
>>> Slides:
>>> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/PDF/PPM/sweeting-policy-experience.pdf
>>>
>>> Transcript:
>>> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5
>>>
>>> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsfVMG_6fA
>>>
>>> Slides 10 - 13, located in the video from 6:30 to 8:30, are the relevant
>>> portion of the report, questions from the audience follow.
>>>
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