On 5/2/2019 06:26 PM, Tal, Guy wrote:
Did someone invoke my presence? Or are you talking about Trust Anchor Locator? 😊


Probably. About half way down the third page of the Google search results for "TAL networking", I found a reference to draft-ietf-sidrops-https-tal-08...

People, this discussion is hard enough to follow without dropping obscure, undefined acronyms...


Guy

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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

What is TAL?  Google search is useless, so don't tell me to look it up.

On 5/2/2019 06:09 PM, Carlos Friaças via ARIN-PPML wrote:

Hi,

Just a small note to say that i completely agree with you regarding
the TAL issue.

 From a global perspective, and to aid in RPKI deployment, the TAL
issue
needs to be solved...

Regards,
Carlos


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Michel Py wrote:

Scott Leibrand wrote :
But if we do decide we want ARIN to create acceptable standards of
conduct with regard to routing, and fine resource holders who
violate it, under threat of resource revocation if those fines
aren't paid, there will need to be a *lot*

A *LOT* indeed

of work done to set up such a system so that it doesn't risk ARIN
picking a legal fight it's going to lose, and putting the entire
registry at risk.

I agree.

And there is no such thing as zero risk with things that have not
been tried in court before, so whatever new standard we create has to
be absolutely airtight from a legal point of view. I find myself in
an ironic position defending this, as I said in the past that ARIN
was too paranoid about legal liability, but that is not the same risk
factor than the TAL.

And the fine has to be significant, or they'll pay it, which favors
the rich.

Michel.

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