On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:03 AM Hank Nussbacher <[email protected]> wrote: > "ARIN hereby allocates to you an IP address block and hereby grants you > sole permission to announce that address block to the Internet." > Simple enough? Not that simple, really.
Effectively, the "Choice to revoke" suggested by the Proposal/etc would have a risk of forcing/accelerating fragmentation from one internet into multiple internets; the moment a RIR decides that a large enough enterprise or carrier "Has not done enough" to stop BGP hijacking causing a "revokation" from their registry. "the internet" itself is not ANY organization's trademark, and it is not a specific thing; internet is a generic word referring to any network of networks, whether that be a private association of 1000 networks or a million networks -- the phrase "internet" is not a trademark for a specific network. There exists no authority generally with any exclusive legal right to permission nor prohibit anything regarding "the internet" -- IANA, the IETF, the RIRS, ICANN, etc, have policies over how they administer _their_ databases and systems generally, but no legal authority over "the internet". In the US and many countries; RIRs such as ARIN are very limited in the manner that they could regulate their members as well, even if they wish -- for example, if ARIN crafted an agreement designed to prevent members offering products or services related to a "competing internet", then the RIRs would likely find themselves at risk of being in violation of various countries' Anti-Trust laws -- particularly with the use of threats such as "Revoking resources" (although being used for legitimate purposes by the registrant). ARIN's "permission" is not necessary and not sufficient to "announce" an address block to "the (generic) internet" --- ARIN doesn't hold a patent over the IP or BGP protocol; ARIN doesn't hold an intellectual property granting an ARIN exclusive right to use or License the usage of ranges of IP numbers within the Source field of an IP packet, nor the Prefix field of a BGP announcement. Registrations made within ARIN's database are records within ARIN's systems only. The registrations are based on notional, speculative, or anticipated usage within other internet(s), but there is obviously no warranty that the other internet(s) will honor the registration and allow use of that IP number. Particularly if ARIN were to "Revoke" a resource being used for legitimate business purposes by a large enterprise --- some internets may be inclined to adopt a special local policy effectively Declining ARIN's resource revokation for that particular internet. And there is no network on which ARIN themself can guarantee that an ARIN Database registrant or network Matches the actual user of that IP number on a particular network. For example: If a competing internet declines to recognize one of ARIN's resource revokations, then that internet or group of internets would likely also agree to decline to recognize a subsequent registration from that space to a different organization. There is no Patent, no Copyright, nor any other government-granted monopoly that ANY Organization owns which says, for example that the numbers 0x40000000-0x4fffffff can only be used according to an ARIN license on a computer network, if you have devices that send something that looks like an IP packet. The permission to announce an address block comes from whatever the organization or organizations owning the networks on that particular "internet" have agreed to amongst themselves; *that group of networks* might require registration in the RIR or other databases generally, or they might have other agreements, OR a different idea on how to co-ordinate their (generic) internet's usage of IP numbers that varies from the RFC series. The moment a RIR such as ARIN acts erratically and attempts to "Revoke" the assignment of a legitimate carrier; the "organizations owning the networks" --- will have a potential to alter their agreements between themselves to adjust their contracts to list some "Extra registrations" - Instead of merely relying upon the common IRRs or IRRs; Seeking to ignore such revokation, and have a significant enough fraction of worldwide networks shifting to an alternate permutation of less-than-global connectivity.. -- -JH _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
