Um, did IETF delegate 240/4 to IANA to manage at all? Seems to me that we would first need an RFC to do that (or one which amends RFC-1918 to add 240/4 to it, taking IANA out of the loop).
Since I don’ t think there’s a benefit to having IANA in the loop and I think we’d need IETF action on the matter to proceed anyway, I don’t see an advantage to adding IANA to the mix. Owen > On May 16, 2019, at 7:34 PM, David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > I suppose we could try a global policy that would have to pass in all 5 RIRs > requesting IANA and the IETF to allocate 240/4 for Private Use. If that were > to actually occur, it seems difficult for the IETF to ignore such a request. > While on the other hand, I'm not sure there would be a consensus within the > ARIN community, let alone the other RIRs, to do such a thing anyway. > Nevertheless, there is no way for ARIN to unilaterally allocate 240/4 for any > purpose. > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 21:09 Mark Andrews <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > 240/4 isn’t ARIN’s to allocate or do you think ARIN should squat on the > space? :-) > > > On 17 May 2019, at 11:48 am, Michel Py <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> Joe Provo wrote : > >> By all means, go tilt at the class e windmill if you like; > >> it will only be the fourth time or so, I can't recall. > > > > I was trying to convince Owen to co-author with me ;-) > > > >> But it isn't anything for ARIN policy, so feel free to take it up at the > >> IETF... > > > > I would not waste more time there. > > ARIN is the entity having the squatting problem : we have members who use > > the resources of another member and they should not. > > > > There is precedent, Owen will remember that I'm sure. During the early > > days, there was no IPv6 multi-homing solution. The RIRs, not the IETF, > > started to allocate IPv6 PI addresses to organizations who wanted to > > multi-home, while there was no such thing as IPv6 PI. I remember that the > > IETF was not happy with that, but it worked : since then, we have IPv6 > > multi-homing, the good old way that works, not any of the dirty hacks that > > were on the table at the time. > > > > ARIN allocates 240/4 for private unicast to ARIN members. > > Maybe we could convince Geoff and APNIC to try the alternative way. > > Long shot, I know. > > > > Owen, you allow your vision of "all IPv6" to cloud your judgment. Turning > > IPv4 off is not going to happen for decades. > > > > Michel. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > > issues. > > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues. > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:[email protected] > <mailto:email%[email protected]> > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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