> Owen DeLong wrote : > Regardless of the opinion of the IETF (or more accurately certain > participants in > the IETF, since the IETF never made a coordinated statement of any sort of > WG conclusion that I was off base on that), those were the facts on the > ground. [..]
You caught them by surprise though. Was a long time ago, but I remember some pretty intense discussions that had a fairly liberal use of the F word and something about you "daring" them to challenge their point of view. Think of what George Carlin would have said if he was "certain participants" of the IETF. > You keep saying this as if there was some huge expense to IPv6. I admit I > don’t > know your specific network, but it’s pretty hard to fathom that at this point. Come visit. It's better than the Smithsonian. BTW, if someone is interested, I'm about to eWaste a million bucks (then) of DEC hardware running VMS with Alpha processors. Good chances are these are the last EISA machines we have (some are PCI), so there is a large stockpile of EISA spares too. Anyone needs an Adaptec 1742 ? Mylex DAC-960 EISA ? 3COM 3C597 100M Ethernet EISA card ? If it still is in shrinkwrap, it costs more. Sorry, you don't get the hard drives. > Then there’s probably a limit to the amount of time that $job[0] > will remain able to communicate with the full internet. It's a blessing. I spend a lot of time making sure it does not. I have a billion dollars in hardware that does not speak IPv6 and never will. That is not my problem. > You quoted 25% and 3% numbers earlier, I don’t know what your source is, but > from Google, Facebook, Netflix, > and Akamai, it looks like something close to 50% of all internet traffic in > North America is IPv6. More than > 50% of all mobile traffic in that same area. World wide the numbers drop > some, but they are continuing to rise. I do not block Google, but I do block Facebook and Netflix. This is not what we pay employees to do. >> We are heading straight towards the balkanization of the Internet. > That’s been true to some extent since the early days of IPv6 development. > There was always going > to come some time when the majority of the internet was going to decide that > supporting IPv4 > wasn’t worth the cost or hassle any more and at that point, you’d have IPv4 > islands in an IPv6 ocean. > That fits the definition of balkanization[1] for some. I liked that definition, but that time has come, and gone. It was before the FUD that the Internet would collapse because of a shortage of IPv4 addresses was still a thing. The world has ran out of IPv4, the Internet is still there, and mine is 0% IPv6. Even by Google standards, we are at about 25%, and it has been slowing down. https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html Let me repeat this : 0% of my customers have IPv6. 0% of my suppliers have IPv6. My current upstream does not provide IPv6. I remember the days when I had my ASN on my home aDSL, and redundant IPv6 tunnels to HE and Viagénie. I paid $500 to ARIN to get the ASN for my home aDSL. Was quite a surprise that I got it, actually. I did not cheat on the application. Owen, these days are gone. Do you want to be Jordi ? Michel. [1] Apologies to Jan Zorz for using your chosen term, which is horribly politically incorrect in his opinion, and he should know. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
