On 28/10/2019 03:38, Michel Py wrote:
I don't care about the pricing. What we should care about is what IP
blocks get transferred. RIPE used to provide some partial data here:
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfer-statistics/within-ripe-ncc-service-region/ipv4-transfer-statistics
https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfer-statistics/inter-rir/inter-rir-ipv4-transfer-statistics
Been broken for a while.
But what I would like to see is a monthly update of the delegated file
indicating which "country code" lost IP address space and which country
code gained IP address space - and specifically listing the actual IP
blocks:
https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/65-CC-extdelstats-database-IW.pdf
Regards,
Hank
Dear ARIN members,
I am moving here (where it belongs) a thread that started on nanog this
week-end.
Long story made short, I was suggesting that ARIN collects and publish
financial data associated with NPRM 8.3 and possibly more transfers.
Owen stated that he was "ambivalent" about it, which I interpret as a good
state of mind for a dialog.
Problem statement :
At least one broker makes available the price paid by the recipient of
transfers :
https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
My idea is as follows : I think this brings transparency to the market, and
that ARIN should collect the data and publish it, so we have a more accurate
picture of what the market is, and not only partial data from a small subset of
brokers. We need better data.
I like the idea of transparency. It may not be fashionable to say so, but
auctions.ipv4.global somehow is the eBay of the transfer market and I like it.
As a "buyer" I want to "buy" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I
can expect a reasonably good estimate of what it is going to cost me.
As a "seller" I want to "sell" (note the quotes) a block of IPv4 addresses.
Transparency on the market is good to me, because if I do my homework right I
can expect a reasonably good estimate of what I can get out of it.
I think that there was a pretty good understanding that, if ARIN did not
embrace the transfer market, there would have been a black market anyway.
My suggestion is : transparent pricing is the next step. I am not suggesting
that ARIN becomes the eBay of market transfers, but I am suggesting that ARIN
publishes data about market pricing.
Your comments are welcome.
Michel.
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