> On Nov 6, 2019, at 11:21 , John Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 11/6/2019 12:57 PM, ARIN wrote:
> 
>> This policy attempts to address these issues, by raising the minimum size to 
>> a /24 and limits total amount an organization can receive to a /21. It also 
>> removes the requirement for return and renumber, since that was primarily 
>> added to allow organizations to obtain larger blocks if that was necessary. 
>> The policy also clarifies the utilization requirements by placing them 
>> directly in this section rather than a reference to the utilization 
>> requirements of end users.
>> Policy Statement:
>> Replace current 4.10 with the following updated section
>> 4.10 Dedicated IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6 Deployment
>> ARIN shall allocate a contiguous /10 from its last /8 IPv4 allocation from 
>> IANA. This IPv4 block will be set aside and dedicated to facilitate IPv6 
>> deployment. Allocations and assignments from this block must be justified by 
>> immediate IPv6 deployment requirements. Examples of such needs include: IPv4 
>> addresses for key dual stack DNS servers, and NAT-PT or NAT464 translators. 
>> ARIN staff will use their discretion when evaluating justifications.
>> This block will be subject to a minimum and maximum size allocation of /24. 
>> ARIN should use sparse allocation when possible within that /10 block.
> 
> This contradicts the statement above that the maximum allocation or 
> assignment is a /21, not a /24.  Or is it intended that the initial 
> allocation or assignment is always a /24, but the recipient can later ask for 
> more, up to a /21, with appropriate justification?

I believe that is the intent and that it remains from the original policy. I do 
not believe that 4.10 ever allowed for distribution of more than a /24 at one 
time (though there is a proposal in last call now to change that for the MDN 
case).

> Or is it worded that way so that if an applicant comes back for a second (or 
> subsequent) allocation/assignment under this section (for a second discrete 
> network?) they may receive no more than a /21 in total?

This policy proposal is distinct from the MDN policy proposal which seeks to 
modify the same section in a different way to support MDN. The /21 wording in 
this proposal is a holdover from the original and not a modification of the 
original 4.10 intent if memory serves me correctly. I think it is best for 
everyone if we do not conflate the two proposals or the discussion about them 
any more than is necessary. Please review that proposal and post any questions 
or comments in a thread related to that proposal.

> Also, if the allocation or assignment is a /24, no more and no less, what is 
> the point of the 2nd sentence that ARIN should use sparse allocation?  Is it 
> so applicants taking a second dip will, if possible, get a contiguous /24 
> each time?

Sparse allocation allows ARIN to have a greater potential to provide contiguous 
blocks later if the organization in question comes back for additional space at 
a later date. If ARIN uses consecutive allocation, then the entity that 
received X.X.2.0/24 comes back for a second block and someone else will already 
have X.X.3.0/24. OTOH, if ARIN uses sparse allocation, odds are good that ARIN 
can issue the original requestor X.X.3.0/24 creating X.X.2.0/23.

I hope that clarifies the situation.

Owen

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