I do not support the reintroduction of organizations onto the wait-list who were removed due to having existing address holdings larger than a /20.  Being on the wait-list was never a guarantee that you would receive space.  The AC had to balance the various elements of block size and organizations who would be eligible to receive space under the updated policy and we were aware that the rules as implemented would prevent some organizations on the wait-list from receiving blocks going forward.

Speaking only for myself, not the AC

Andrew

On 6/19/2020 11:25 AM, Alyssa Moore wrote:
Hi folks,

There was some great discussion of this policy proposal at ARIN45. We hear a wide range of views including:

 1. Don't grandfather organizations. The new waitlist policy is sound.
 2. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
    eligible for their original request size (even if it exceeds the
    new limit of a /22).
 3. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should
    remain eligible if their holdings exceed a /20 OR a /18. The draft
    policy under discussion specifies a /18 total holdings for
    grandfathered orgs, while the current waitlist policy (2019-16)
    specifies a /20.
 4. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
    eligible regardless of their total holdings because that was not a
    restriction of the policy under which they originally qualified
    for the waitlist.

 There was general support to continue finessing this draft. If you have views on the above noted parameters, please make them known here.

For reference:

*Old waitlist policy*

 1. Requester specifies smallest block they'd be willing to accept,
    equal to or larger than the applicable minimum size specified
    elsewhere in ARIN policy.
 2. Did not place a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of
    a party eligible for the waitlist.
 3. Made resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
    until after a period of 12 months.

*New Waitlist Policy*

 1. Limits the size of block ARIN can issue on the waitlist to a /22.
 2. Places a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of a
    party eligible for the waitlist at a /20 or less.
 3. Makes resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
    until after a period of 60 months.


Best,
Alyssa

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:35 PM David Farmer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I support this policy and believe the policy development process
    is the proper place to handle this issue. However, this policy
    seems to be implementable as a one-time policy directive to ARIN
    Staff. Once implemented, by putting the
    effected organizations back on the waiting list, it seems
    unnecessary to memorialized the text in the NRPM, it would
    immediately become extraneous and potentially confusing to future
    readers of the NRPM.

    Therefore, I would like to recommend the Policy Statement not be
    added to the NRPM upon its implementation. I believe this to
    be consistent with the intent of the policy.  Otherwise, does ARIN
    Staff have procedural advice on how best to handle what seems like
    a one-time directive?

    Thanks

    On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM ARIN <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations
        Removed from
        Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

        Problem Statement:

        The implementation of the ARIN-2019-16 Advisory Council
        Recommendation
        Regarding NRPM 4.1.8: Unmet Requests caused some organizations
        to be
        removed from the waiting list that were approved under the old
        policy’s
        eligibility criteria. These organizations should have been
        grandfathered
        when the waitlist was reopened to allow them to receive an
        allocation of
        IPv4 up to the new policy’s maximum size constraint of a /22.

        Policy Statement: Update NRPM Section 4.1.8 as follows:

        Add section 4.1.8.3 (temporary language in the NRPM to remain
        until the
        policy objective is achieved)

        Restoring organizations to the waitlist

        ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the
        waitlist at
        the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position if
        their total
        holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less. The
        maximum
        size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for
        is a /22.

        All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by
        [number of
        months between July 2019 and implementation of new policy].
        Any requests
        met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and
        removed from the
        waiting list.

        Comments:

        Timetable for implementation: Immediate

        Anything Else: While attending ARIN 44 and discussing this
        with other
        community members the vast majority indicated that they agreed
        that some
        organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a remedy.
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