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Steven Ryerse
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From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> On Behalf Of Mike Burns
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:59 AM
To: hostmas...@uneedus.com; arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of
Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
I support the policy as written and I do not believe we should prioritize small
holders over large holders.
Large holders pay higher fees but I don't see the rationale behind favoring
small holders on the wait list.
All holders should be on equal footing, we never had a new-entrant reserve at
ARIN and I think if that is something we want to do, it should be discussed
openly and not inserted through the back door of waitlist policy.
Regards,
Mike
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From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> On Behalf Of hostmas...@uneedus.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:59 AM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of
Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
I am also against this proposal.
If we allow holders of larger blocks back onto the list, we take away blocks
that should go to smaller holders.
The waiting list is NOT a lottery to be "won", and I think the policy should
not change.
Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Andrew Dul wrote:
I do not support the reintroduction of organizations onto the
wait-list who were removed due to having existing address holdings
larger than a /20. Being on the wait-list was never a guarantee that
you would receive space. The AC had to balance the various elements
of
block size and organizations who would be eligible to receive space under the
updated policy and we were aware that the rules as implemented would prevent
some organizations on the wait-list from receiving blocks going forward.
Speaking only for myself, not the AC
Andrew
On 6/19/2020 11:25 AM, Alyssa Moore wrote:
Hi folks,
There was some great discussion of this policy proposal at ARIN45.
We hear a wide range of views including:
1. Don't grandfather organizations. The new waitlist policy is
sound.
2. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should be
eligible for their original request size (even if it exceeds the new limit
of a /22).
3. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should
remain eligible if their holdings exceed a /20 OR a /18. The draft policy
under discussion specifies a /18 total holdings for
grandfathered orgs, while the current waitlist policy (2019-16) specifies a /20.
4. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should be
eligible regardless of their total holdings because that was not a
restriction of the policy under which they originally
qualified
for the waitlist.
There was general support to continue finessing this draft. If
you
have views on the above noted parameters, please make them known here.
For reference:
Old waitlist policy
1. Requester specifies smallest block they'd be willing to accept,
equal
to or larger than the applicable minimum size specified elsewhere in ARIN
policy.
2. Did not place a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of
a
party eligible for the waitlist.
3. Made resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
until after a period of 12 months. New Waitlist Policy 1. Limits the
size of block ARIN can issue on the waitlist to a /22.
2. Places a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of a
party
eligible for the waitlist at a /20 or less.
3. Makes resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer
until after a period of 60 months.
Best,
Alyssa
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:35 PM David Farmer <far...@umn.edu> wrote:
I support this policy and believe the policy development process
is
the proper place to handle this issue. However, this policy seems to
be implementable as a one-time policy directive to ARIN Staff.
Once
implemented, by putting the effected organizations back on the waiting
list, it seems unnecessary to memorialized the text in the NRPM,
it
would immediately become extraneous and potentially confusing to
future readers of the NRPM.
Therefore, I would like to recommend the Policy Statement not be added
to the NRPM upon its implementation. I believe this to be consistent
with
the intent of the policy. Otherwise, does ARIN Staff have procedural advice on
how best to handle what seems like a one-time directive?
Thanks
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:
Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations
Removed
from
Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
Problem Statement:
The implementation of the ARIN-2019-16 Advisory Council
Recommendation
Regarding NRPM 4.1.8: Unmet Requests caused some organizations to be
removed from the waiting list that were approved under the old
policy?s
eligibility criteria. These organizations should have been
grandfathered
when the waitlist was reopened to allow them to receive an
allocation of
IPv4 up to the new policy?s maximum size constraint of a /22.
Policy Statement: Update NRPM Section 4.1.8 as follows:
Add section 4.1.8.3 (temporary language in the NRPM to remain
until
the
policy objective is achieved)
Restoring organizations to the waitlist
ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the
waitlist
at
the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position if their
total
holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less. The maximum
size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for is
a
/22.
All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by
[number
of
months between July 2019 and implementation of new policy]. Any
requests
met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed
from
the
waiting list.
Comments:
Timetable for implementation: Immediate
Anything Else: While attending ARIN 44 and discussing this with
other
community members the vast majority indicated that they agreed
that
some
organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a remedy.
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