I support this proposal.

Thanks,
Tom Pruitt
Network Engineer
Stratus Networks
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:31 AM
To: Isaiah Olson <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of 
Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16


Hi all,

Alyssa and I (co-shepherds for this policy) have reviewed all of the comments. 
There are 18 comments in favour of the spirit of this policy, and 5 against.


Many of these comments express support for removing the restriction on total 
holdings for a grandfathered organization, because this was not a restriction 
when they were originally placed on the list.


As such, the amended proposal would look like this:


ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the waitlist at the 
adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position (STRIKE THIS: if their 
total holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less.) The maximum 
size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for is a /22.

All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by [number of months 
between July 2019 and implementation of new policy]. Any requests met through a 
transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.

Thoughts?

-Anita Nikolich

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:09 PM Isaiah Olson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,

On behalf of my organization, I would also like to voice support for this 
policy. As much as I find some arguments against the policy compelling, namely 
that nobody is guaranteed to receive any space within any kind of time frame 
when using the waiting list, I think it’s pretty clear to the community that an 
error was made in moving the target out from underneath companies who had 
already been patiently waiting on the list in accordance with the requirements 
at the time they were added.

As far as implementation details, I absolutely believe that two of the most 
important measures to prevent fraud were the introduction of the /22 limit and 
the 60 month waiting period to transfer wait list issued space. Although we may 
have erred in retroactively removing orgs based on the new /20 limit for total 
space held, I think that the grandfathered orgs should be subject to the same 
treatment as the orgs who remained on the list after 2019-16 was implemented. 
Otherwise, I believe we would once again be creating a situation of unequal 
treatment for the orgs who had to reduce their request size to a /22 after the 
implementation of 2019-16, and were subject to the new 60 month waiting period 
upon issuance.

With regards to the proposed /18 limit, I do find that there is little to 
support this arbitrary boundary when the original waitlist policy specified no 
such condition. Since we are remedying a one time error, I think that we 
shouldn’t be too particular about which of the aggrieved parties are allowed to 
make use of that remedy. Although I personally believe that most organizations 
holding greater than a /18 could probably afford to obtain space in other ways, 
I think the duty of ARIN to be fair and impartial requires us to take a bit 
broader view. Asking an organization to take a smaller allocation, or wait 
longer to transfer allocated space, seems to me to be a much less onerous 
retroactive application of new policy than drawing any boundary which results 
in complete ineligibility for some.

Isaiah Olson
Olson Tech, LLC
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