Thanks for the clarification, David. I support the proposal as written.
michael
PS. My employer is covered under (L)RSA, so my question was "asking for
a friend." :-)
On 1/15/21 5:11 PM, David Farmer wrote:
In fact it does account for legacy resources, note such legacy resource
were allocated or assigned by predecessors of ARIN and therefore not “by
ARIN under these policies”. Furthermore, Registration Services Agreement
and RSA are both use in several places in the NRPM, therefore having a
clear definition seems like a good idea.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 18:55 Michael Sinatra
<[email protected] <mailto:michael%[email protected]>> wrote:
Question: Does this change affect in any way the services provided by
ARIN to legacy holders who are not under (L)RSA? The new wording
proposed for section 2 doesn't seem to account for that category. My
thought is to simply delete 4.2.1.2 and be done with it. Does the NRPM
need to include a definition of the RSA?
thanks,
michael
On 1/15/21 12:55 PM, ARIN wrote:
> The following Draft Policy has been revised:
>
>
>
> * ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual Renewal Fee
>
>
>
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_8/>>
>
>
>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of
this Draft
> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
> principles are:
>
>
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>
> * Technically Sound
>
> * Supported by the Community
>
>
>
> The PDP can be found at:
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>>
>
>
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
<https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Sean Hopkins
>
> Policy Analyst
>
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-8: Clarify and Update 4.2.1.2 Annual
Renewal Fee
>
>
>
> Problem Statement:
>
>
>
> The January 2020 Policy Experience Report highlighted that the
existing
> language in Section 4.2.1.2 "Annual Renewal" references fees.
Fees are
> not considered a member qualification criteria. Since fees aren't
> referenced elsewhere in community policy, the wording was reviewed by
> the PEG.
>
>
>
> Policy statement:
>
>
>
> Given that the Registration Services Agreement (RSA) already contains
> language regarding fees, the AC Shepherds recommend to eliminate
> 4.2.1.2. entirely and add:
>
>
>
> 2.X Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
>
>
>
> Number resources allocated or assigned by ARIN under these
policies are
> subject to a contractural agreement between ARIN and the resource
> holder. Throughout this document, any and all forms of this
agreement,
> past or future, are simply referred to as the Registration Services
> Agreement (RSA).
>
>
>
> Comments:
>
>
>
> The AC’s understanding is that community policy should not include
> language referring to fees, as such language is already present
in the
> Registration Services Agreement (RSA)
>
>
>
> Registration Services has informed us that "Section 4.2.1.2. contains
> language detailing fee due dates, encouraging on-time payments, and
> mentions potential revocations. It also contains a reference to web
> documentation that has evolved significantly since this policy was
> implemented, and may continue to do so. Essentially the entire
section
> is made of language that is already in the Registration Services
> Agreement, and is generally fee-focused, making it outside normal
scope
> for Internet number resource policy."
>
>
>
>
>
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>
>
>
>
>
> Anything else:
>
>
>
> Community input since adopting draft has informed this direction. The
> 2.X placeholder is used as this seems like it might be foundational
> enough to not be 2.17 but the Shepherds would rather not upset
current
> indexing arbitrarily.
>
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