Sorry correcting a typo, I meant at the end "otherwise policies would
tend to be made directed to benefit only as subset of Internet
participants in the region."
Regards
Fernando
On 17/01/2021 11:53, Fernando Frediani wrote:
Hello Michael
I don't agree with John's view that if Board would decide to do this
it would still make ARIN compatible with ICANN's ICP-2 specially
Section 3 simply because Board represents only members not the
community and having a body elected only by the members which is one
of the interested parties in the process excluding community then.
Regarding ARIN's bylaws Section 2 that mentions "transparent
multi-stakeholder process" it will depend how it is interpreted who
are the stakeholders and if that includes community as well.
John - thanks for engaging in this discussion and bringing your view,
but knowing how the RIR ecosystem and other RIRs work in that sense,
reading the ICP-2 it doesn't make sense the idea that Board could make
and adopt policies by itself without involvement of the community. If
in ARIN that can be considered legal, if it would ever start happening
that could bring up doubts of about compatibility with ICP-2 in the
sense I mentioned above. There are reasons community can never be
excluded from policy making process (even in emergency situations),
otherwise policies multi-stakeholder directed to benefit only as
subset of Internet participants in the region.
Regards
Fernando
On 17/01/2021 09:48, Michael B. Williams wrote:
Hi John,
Just to be clear though my understanding is that despite the PDP
being in place and the board principally following the process, there
is no requirement to do so. The board could decide for any reason to
implement or change a policy even if it was not an emergency
situation or warrant an urgent need. I just think this needs to be
made clear to the community that the PDP is a process used to help
inform the boards decision making and is non-binding. While the board
generally adheres to the recommendations they are able to institute
any policy, reject any policy, or decide that today they did not feel
like using the PDP simply because they did not want to.
Regards,
Michael
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 23:33 John Curran <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 17 Jan 2021, at 4:16 AM, Michael B. Williams
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Fernando -
>
> I don’t believe this is correct. The board, from my reading, is
able to make and adopt without any other input or approval from
anyone else any policy they deem appropriate fair and fit for
internet number and resource allocation.
>
> John Curran - please correct me if I’m wrong here but the board
could make and adopt policies without any community input or
consideration if it so desired. Just because the board chooses
to, as a general matter of principle, does not make this binding
Michael -
You are correct - the ARIN Board can make (or suspend) policy
without any input or approval if need be, but the Board has
adopted the ARIN Policy Development Process that reserves such
acts for emergency situations. Accountability to the ARIN
community is maintained via the ARIN members collective power to
elect and remove Board members.
Best wishes,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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