Hi John,
Thank you for these clarifications. I appreciate your detailed responses
for the edification of myself and other participants.
I am curious... would resources allocated under 4.10 be considered
differently, or not as an asset, due to the relevant and proper
restrictions against transfer placed upon them?
Scott
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, John Curran wrote:
On 3 Sep 2021, at 1:12 AM, [email protected] wrote:
...
No one is claiming anything here, everyone is paying
a fair market price for
what they are using in a scare market. Owning an
asset does not constitute a
crime.
Being allocated IP addresses from a RIR does not constitute
ownership of an asset, under any circumstances.
Scott –
For purposes of consideration of the nature of IP address blocks
in the ARIN region, it is worth noting the following –
1. The rights provided to parties upon issuance of an IP address
block from the ARIN registry can indeed be consider an “asset” of
their estate,
2. Those rights are not "freely held", but are intimately tied to
corresponding obligations in the implied or explicit agreement that
was made for their issuance.
3. Courts (probate, bankruptcy, civil,...) may order disposition of
such assets – ARIN routinely gets involved in such matters, and
explains to the parties & courts the various requirements necessary
for transfer in compliance with our policies.
4. We have many cases where such transfers have occurred, and have
never had to update ARIN’s database without adherence to our policies
and entry into an RSA by the recipient.
I will also observe by "being issued an IP address block”, the set of
rights received by a party is a _limited_ set of rights to the
registration entry in the registry database. There are other rights
(e.g. the right to the determine the format and fields of the entire
entry - e.g. when we add an abuse contact), the right to require
certain portions be published publicly, etc. – these rights are held
and administered by ARIN on behalf of the community.
What does this have to do with policy? The community can determine
the policies that apply to resource holders, such as when and how they
may be subdivided/leased/etc. The community can decide what reporting
obligations are associated with the number resources. ARIN will
enforce clear policy developed by the community in this regard, but
otherwise will simply strive to maintain a stable & secure registry
(in order to support stable & secure Internet operations.)
To the extent that people have specific policy proposals, please
submit them per the following process –
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/appendix_b/
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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