> On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:02 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 5 Sep 2021, at 1:05 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> i.e. it was the presence of a transfer policy that enabled forward progress >>> in the region, as absence of such would have led to a rather indeterminate >>> state given the rapidly growing expectations in this regard. >> >> Indeed, if I remember the history correctly, the board strong-armed the AC >> on the issue in question, making very strong suggestions that if we didn’t >> move such a policy forward, they would. Then, once we did move a policy >> forward, the board decided they didn’t like it and used the emergency >> process to create a significantly different one, leading to significant >> community outrage followed by some significant reforms to the emergency PDP >> in the region. >> >> If you remember the history differently, feel free to correct me. > > > Owen - > > The entire history is quite well-documented; it is just your characterization > of events that is faulty. > > My recollection is quite good on this topic, but if you wish a refresher you > can read the full history here - Timeline - > https://www.arin.net/vault/policy/proposals/2009_1.html > <https://www.arin.net/vault/policy/proposals/2009_1.html> > Board statement regarding the emergency policy - > https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20090406/b8a75e31/attachment.pdf > > <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20090406/b8a75e31/attachment.pdf> > > > In the case of transfer policy in the ARIN region, the Board saw an impeding > major risk to ARIN’s mission and made sure to have policy in place well > before it was needed
How does this differ from my characterization other than the marketing spin? > In short: in 2007, the Board noted that a transfer policy was urgently > needed to address upcoming market realities and the ARIN Advisory Council > spent much of 2008 working with the community on it, but the result still > contained significant limitations that would have precluded its use in many > of the situations for which it was needed. The ARIN Board did conditionally > adopt it but noted that the transfer policy would not alleviate the impending > risk to the organization; noting both possible changes and provided an > alternative formulation. The ARIN AC eventually adopted a transfer policy > of its own making that was similar to the revised formulation provided by the > Board. Again, not seeing a meaningful difference beyond spin in how the events were characterized. Yes, I left off the part where the AC eventually approved the watered down policy lacking the protections we had originally put in place. > While the Board delegates the administration of policy development routinely > to the ARIN AC, but it retains ultimate authority commensurate with the > responsibility that they must bear for the organization. This is a very useful clarification to have available for those who continue to argue that the community is the ultimate authority on policy matters. Thank you. > As such, the Board certainly could have changed the PDP to allow immediate > and direct adoption of its preferred policy language, but it is worth noting > that it instead worked with the ARIN AC and community for over a year to make > it happen via the adopted PDP process – a process which includes the > emergency policy provision that the Board used to propose its version. The > ARIN Policy Development Process functioned exactly as designed in this > circumstance, as the ARIN Trustees ultimately have responsibility for making > sure that ARIN manages risks so that its performance of mission is not > impacted, and the ability to propose an emergency policy change helped > galvanize the ARIN AC and community to adopt a functional transfer policy > just in time for the market changes that were already underway. Right… This is the opposite of what I said. My point was that after the board created a good deal of backlash in the community, the emergency PDP was modified to put additional protections in place. The board still remains all-powerful, but the curtain is slightly pulled back and there are a few more community-involved steps for the “emergency” policy action to survive or become permanent. I think these are good things, but they were born out of this particular event. Owen
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