> On Oct 27, 2021, at 09:40 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It doesn't work if emails aren't validated at least a couple of times per 
> year.

Meh… Doable, but expensive.

> It doesn't work if the policy doesn't enforce that the resource actually 
> addresses the abuse cases.

Which it can’t really do… We don’t even have an agreed upon definition for what 
constitutes abuse and I
don’t think ARIN belongs in the internet police business.

> It doesn't work if the policy allows an auto-responder that enforces a form 
> submission.

Which is the current state of things and I suspect you have an uphill battle if 
you wish to change.

> Ideally, we, as a global community, should work into a standard email-based 
> format (which already exists), an allows to differentiate between spam or 
> real abuse reports, and embed the logs, headers, etc.

Want to bet that I can’t write an abuse report generator for any standard you 
choose in less than 24 hours that will not get detected as SPAM by automation?

Owen

> 
> 
> El 27/10/21 18:24, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de William Herrin" 
> <[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:
> 
>    On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:07 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think that is wrong, since
>> email IS the current standard for reporting abuse.
> 
>    And how is that working out for you?
> 
>> Already there are operators that have set up autoresponders to "demand"
>> you report abuse by their web application and stating that they are
>> choosing to ignore your email submission.
> 
>    Exactly. That's how it's working out for you.
> 
>    Regards,
>    Bill Herrin
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