On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:18 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 5:10 PM David Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:32 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> However, since /48 is also the minimum Internet routable size,
>> Sorry, what?  Out of 172,457 IPv6 prefixes seen at AMSIX (according to 
>> routeviews) on 2023-01-01, counts of prefixes longer than 48:
> Sorry, I didn't realize I'd be called out for insufficient pedantry.

You’re aware you’re on the Internet, right?

> The minimum IPv6 size _ubiquitously accepted_ into folks' Internet BGP
> tables is /48. As with IPv4's /24 boundary, some folks accept longer
> prefixes. As with IPv4, -some- is not enough.

“Ubiquitous".  Like /24 in IPv4 was ubiquitous until Sprint (the 800 lbs 
gorilla at the time) started filtering at /19? The point being that arbitrary 
boundaries are overly simplistic: there aren’t hard rules here, only local 
policy.  But you know this.

Anyhow, back to the original question:

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 11:52 AM Fernando Frediani <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I always found a bit strange (not only in ARIN) to have this distinction 
> between ISP and End-user. In practice things should not differ much. Only 
> thing that would possible remain slightly different are the details of 
> justifications that must be provided and the size of the block to be 
> allocated.
> 
In practice, ISPs tend to grow much more and more quickly than end user 
networks.
> Another thing that I wanted to understand better is the reasoning to allocate 
> a significant smaller IPv6 block to a said end-user organization given it is 
> not so scarce resource. At least a /40 should be minimal default for an 
> end-user (not a /48) and a /32 for any size of ISP.
> 
You might want to look at RFC 6177.
> For now my personal impression is to create some artificial scarcity in order 
> to have different levels of Service Category.
> 

Never attribute to malice what can be more easily explained by inertia.

Regards,
-drc

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