Unfortunately, legal person is also problematic as it would eliminate unincorporated business entities.
Suggest adding legal person as an additional term to the proposed language rather than replacing it. Owen > On Feb 4, 2024, at 11:22, Tyler O'Meara via ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That's an interesting point Roman, but I think that ship may have > already sailed. > > If a privacy law covers the registrant of an Org ID, presumably it also > covers POC records as well, which are also published in WHOIS. Do we > need to prohibit POC records from being natural persons as well > (genuine question)? > > Given we also have at least 1 known case of a natural person(s) > registering as an Org ID, ARIN would also either need to revoke any > existing resources granted to natural persons, force them to transfer > to a juridical person, or deal with the privacy/legal implications > anyways. > > Finally, as you alluded to, RIPE does permit natural persons to receive > resources despite having more jurisdictions under their purview, in > addition to the GDPR to contend with. > > I think this is probably something where ARIN legal would need to chime > in, but in the absence of a compelling legal reason why supporting > natural persons is prohibitively difficult, I believe that ARIN should > support the registration of resources to natural persons. > > Tyler > >> On Sun, 2024-02-04 at 09:46 -0800, Roman Tatarnikov wrote: >> Oh, that's a fun case. On one side restricting everything to >> incorporated entities feels like creating barriers, but on the other >> side there are Privacy Laws. >> >> Great example would be getting consent about sharing the information >> of a particular person, and tracking what is shared and where, >> ensuring that no PII was leaked out. While Europe has GDPR, in the >> US, as far as I remember, there were only six states with privacy >> laws. And a quick search shows that there has been a lot of new >> developments: >> https://www.dataguidance.com/comparisons/usa-privacy-laws And that's >> just the US, where no federal law is in sight to address this. Canada >> has PIPEDA, and the region that ARIN covers is much larger than just >> those two. >> >> So if we're going to allow individuals to be listed under Org ID, >> we'd need to ensure that RIR is tracking how it is used, where, and >> taking measures to comply with all those emerging and quickly >> changing privacy laws. It's going to be such a nightmare that I doubt >> it's worth the hustle. Keeping Org ID defined as it is in the >> proposal should avoid those issues. I believe very few individuals >> hold resources, and registering as a Sole-Proprietorship or DBA >> should be an easy work around. I am unaware of how RIPE is addressing >> this, but it might be one of those topics to ask them about. >> >> I support the proposal as written. >> > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
