Owen -

With the preface that ARIN staff do not make policy proposals – but do provide 
feedback on policy discussions as appropriate – I concur that the more 
functionally-oriented definition of Org ID does appear to be a step in the 
right direction, but your point regarding intention to participate in the 
registry versus holding resources is definitely valid (and thus the wording is 
likely not a precise as it might be…)

I would note that there is an existing definition of Internet number resources 
in NRPM that references the Internet Numbers Registry System, and one possible 
approach to defining Org ID could simply observe that those who wish to 
participate in that system via ARIN services are issued OrdID’s for that 
purpose; i.e., something to the effect of –

An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is an identifier assigned to entities that 
wish to participate in the Internet Numbers Registry System via ARIN registry 
services.

(and while I hope this feedback is helpful to the community in considering 
possible evolution of the draft policy, I observe there are likely many other 
ways to address the issue so in no way should it be considered constraining 
that evolution.)

Best wishes,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On Feb 8, 2024, at 2:52 AM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Since one technically needs to create an ORG-ID in order to request resources 
(if you don’t already have an ORG-ID), ORG-IDs are technically assigned to 
entities prior to them obtaining resources.

As such, while I think this definition is somewhat on the correct track, 
technically, it is invalid, so I cannot support as written.

Owen


On Feb 7, 2024, at 13:05, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:

The following Draft Policy has been revised:

* ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

Revised text is below and can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_1/

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate 
the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with ARIN's 
Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy 
Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/


Regards,

Eddie Diego
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)


ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID

Problem Statement:

During work on a related policy proposal, the NRPM Working Group determined 
that a definition of Organization Identifier (Org ID) should be included in the 
NRPM to add clarity to the term and unify NRPM references to match the use of 
the term in other ARIN publications such as ARIN online.

Policy Statement:

Current: None

Proposed:

Section 2.18. Organization Identifier (Org ID)

An Organization Identifier (Org ID) is an identifier assigned to resource 
holders in the ARIN registry.

Comments:

This definition had previously been included in an earlier policy proposal 
(ARIN-2023-7), but community feedback recommendations on that proposal showed a 
preference for adding the definition separately from that proposal. As such the 
definition is now being proposed as a standalone proposal, and the language 
will be removed from the current ARIN-2023-7 proposal, allowing the two 
sections of that proposal to be evaluated separately.

Timetable for Implementation: Immediate




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