Hello

I remain opposed to this proposal as written.

I believe /22 is a pretty reasonable and small size to remain as it is for the current propose. One change that would be reasonable in my view is to reduce the maximum aggregate equivalent IPv4 space to be in the waiting list to a /22 as well. The intent of the waiting list in my view should be supply IPv4 space to those who have absolutely nothing and to have something to start with. Once an organization has, it starts to have means to have more income and plan for the transfer of further IPv4 space when needed. At the situation we find ourselves it doesn't make sense any organization who have already some space to work with to sit in the waiting list.

The scenario of IPv4 exhaustion is bad for everyone and unfortunately some still didn't get used to it so far. Those who have something can always think and find other ways and alternatives to do more with what they already have throughout this transition time, and the little that is left for the waiting list allocate to those who have nothing so they have a chance to start with and get their business and customers connected to the Internet.

Fernando

On 14/08/2024 04:46, Gerry E.. George wrote:
As  a co-shepherd on policy 2023-8 (Gerry George & Brian Jones) on Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation, I'm reaching out for additional feedback from the community on this policy following the robust discussions at and since ARIN-53.

We had previously posed the following questions to the community:

a). Do we keep working on this policy? (Y/N)

b). If yes, should consideration be given for some formula or weighted method towards allocations to queue occupants? c). If yes, is there a need to add a clause for dealing with existing waitlist occupants?
And if so, how should they be handled?


Note that if such a clause is determined for inclusion, it will likely apply to ALL currently on the waitlist as at a specific point in time and they ALL would thus be subject to any such clause in the policy, once adopted.



The discussions which resulted from this generallyconverged totwo main tracks:

  * Track 1. No need for this policy and should be abandoned, as it
    doesn't adequately solve the address scarcity problem.
  * Track 2. Keep policy, but ensure that existing waitlist
    participants are grandfathered in, and would not apply to current
    unfulfilled requests.


If Track 2 were to be pursued, then consideration for those currently on the waitlist can be addressed by adding the following clause:

Proposed Text:
*This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the implementation of this policy will not be affected.*


Thus, in order to move work on this policy forward, we now have revised questions for the community:


 1. Do you support the draft policy with the proposed changes?
 2. If not, should there be any additional changes to be made so you
    would support it? What change(s) do you support?
 3. Should the community continue to work on the policy or abandon it?


The full proposed policy text in presented below for your perusal.

/*Problem Statement:*/

4.1.8 waiting times are too long, making justifications untimely by the time a request is met. New entrants to the waiting list are expected to wait three years for their need to be met under current policy, with a waiting list of around 700 at this point. Data indicates that reducing the current /22 maximum further to a /24 would significantly reduce this waiting period, and further tightening the requirements by replacing the /20 recipient maximum holdings with a /24, and preventing multiple visits to the waiting list queue.



*PROPOSED TEXT (Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation*)*:*

/*4.1.8. ARIN Waitlist*/

ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an organization may qualify for is a /24.

Organizations which ever held any IPv4 space other than special use space received under section 4.4 or 4.10 are not eligible to apply.

Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for transfer, with the exception of Section 8.2 transfers, for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed. Qualified requesters will also be advised of the availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.

Waiting list recipients must demonstrate the need for a /24 on an operating network.


*This policy will apply to waitlist requests received following the implementation of this policy. Waitlist requests received prior to the implementation of this policy will not be affected.*





*Gerry E. George*
ICT Consultant and Business Solutions Architect;
*Digi/Solv/, Inc.* [P.O. Box 1677, Castries, Saint Lucia]
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