Adding IPs to 4.10 at the moment is functionally just throwing them away. At ARIN 52 John Sweeting said that 4.10 has a greater than 30 year runway, and I haven't seen anything since that suggests that's changed.
I'm not taking a stance on any of these proposals, just wanted to add that clarification. Tyler On Wed, 2024-08-14 at 16:12 -0400, Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > I agree that the current situation is ludicrous. A 2 year needs test and a 3 > year wait. Looks insane to any rational observer. > > As you allude to I think the mechanics would be difficult and I would rather > any returned addresses go straight to 4.10. And in fact, in addition to > authoring this proposal, I authored one to do just that which floundered a few > years ago, but maybe needs some review In the light of the current waiting > list situation. > > I think something has to change. At least this proposal would serve to clear > out the waiting list and return some sanity in that wait times will be shorter > than justification horizons. > > > Regards, > Mike > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device > > > > ---- On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 15:58:12 -0400 [email protected] wrote ---- > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 12:46 AM Gerry E.. George <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > As a co-shepherd on policy 2023-8 (Gerry George & Brian Jones) on > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation, I'm reaching > > > out for additional feedback from the community on this policy following > > > the > > > robust discussions at and since ARIN-53. > > > > Hi Gerry, > > > > The wait list system is not really sane. If your need can afford to > > wait three years to fulfill it with addresses, how does that not say > > everything that needs to be said about its legitimacy? > > > > I'd like to see a concrete proposal along the lines of releasing > > waitlist addresses to the brokers for sale or directly auctioning them > > off as they become available. Maybe the mechanics won't work out, but > > I'd like to see it and consider whether it's a reasonable idea after > > the details are ironed out. Since these are returned blocks, > > auctioning them explicitly would also allow bidders to evaluate their > > reputation history when making an offer rather than getting stuck with > > whatever random block comes up. > > > > In the interests of fairness to the folks who joined the wait list in > > good faith, perhaps limit the first few auctions to folks already on > > the waitlist before opening it up to the public at large. > > > > Regards, > > Bill Herrin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
