That opposition is specious unless the vast majority of your utilization. Is out of region.
For example, let’s say you have a /21 from ARIN. You are using a /24 out of region and the other 7 /24s within the ARIN region. The 80+% utilization in region would still count towards qualifying, but the extra-regional utilization would not. I support the policy as currently written. Further, any belief that ARIN is likely to be a continuing source of IPv4 addresses is ill-advised at best. Move on to IPv6. It’s long overdue. Owen > On Sep 23, 2026, at 12:15, Quantum via ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Gerry, > > On 2026-09-22 13:21, Gerry George wrote: >> As one of the shepherds of this policy, let me assure you, that the >> opposition which has been expressed is in no way being ignored. In fact, >> this was considered during our last AC meeting, and this is expected to be >> vigorously discussed and hopefully well ventilated on PPML and more so, at >> the ARIN 58 members meeting when this policy is being presented. > Thanks for considering the arguments opposing the amendments to ARIN-2025-3 > at the AC meeting. I am very curious as to what was discussed, since the AC > meeting minutes are not available on the ARIN website. I look forward to > talking about it with you at ARIN 58. > > I would like to bring your attention to the inaccuracies in the AC's > assessment as presented in the original announcement yesterday, which states: > >> The proposal seeks to remove some perceived usage minimums, particularly to >> the benefit of smaller operators operating within the ARIN service region, >> by reducing the required minimum space threshold to qualify for allowing use >> of ARIN IPv4 resource assignments outside of the ARIN region. >> >> This recommendation has been generally supported overwhelmingly by the >> community, although some community members have expressed a preference to >> see the elimination of all out-of-region restrictions. The Advisory Council >> found that this view is not representative of the feedback overwhelmingly >> expressed by the community and that it maintains key restrictions to prevent >> attempts to bypass, manipulate, or exploit unintended gaps in this policy to >> limit potential abuse, and that the policy is suitable to be advanced to >> recommended status. >> >> This policy, upon adoption, lowers the minimum IPv4 utilization threshold >> within the ARIN region required for organizations to qualify to deploy >> ARIN-assigned IPv4 resources outside the ARIN region. > The bolded section of the assessment does not state the crux of the > opposition during the previous round on August 20th, which is the addition of > clause that forbade NRPM section 9 from being used with the ARIN waiting > list. In fact, during that round of discussion, there was only opposition. > Instead, the assessment states that the "recommendation has been generally > supported overwhelmingly by the community," with the only opposing argument > that it presented was a desire by certain community members to eliminate all > out-of-region restrictions. While it may be true that the majority of the > community disagrees with that view (including me), that was hardly the > strongest argument anyone's had against the adoption of the policy. > > This seems to diverge quite a bit from what happened in the AC meeting, since > you were there and confirmed that better arguments against the policy had > clearly been discussed. As a matter of public record, and in the interest of > transparency, it would be in everyone's best interest for that assessment to > be updated with the correct arguments against the policy as discussed during > the AC meeting. This will avoid the perception that the AC meeting was just > arguing against a strawman. > > Best regards, > Quantum > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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