Oops, I left out some web links, here's one I found:
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

On 10 February 2017 at 00:44, Russell Hyer <russell.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well a quick web search (though I couldn't quite find the reference to
> the mailing list reference from Andrew at Samba) shows that the issue
> is that it is a) a change from unix style services that do something
> well and don't overtake the rest of the system b) a system that
> increasingly does more (whether that's negotiate DNS for you and/or
> log in a binary format) and more besides. It's true that I've no idea
> if any of those sources on the internet are super trustworthy. But I
> did already kill my distro's setup a little, so I can kinda see how
> sudo/su/and a host of other services can accidentally on purpose die
> just because of the init system changing (like if you (well, I
> personally in this instance) modify or dpkg delete (whatever the
> vernacular for that is) systemd (or partially))
>
> As to my order, not that it probably matters, as I ordered the
> LibreTea card. (I'm not sure if that'll come with systemd since
> libsystemd is (perhaps) free in some senses of the term. But
> increasingly less, as per Luke's post.
>
> Though, I also see your points about wanting to have expected
> behaviour, and seeing a distro as whatever that distro is (good or
> bad).
>
> Happy hacking,
>
> Russell
>
> On 9 February 2017 at 23:23, Julie Marchant <onp...@riseup.net> wrote:
>> On 02/09/2017 06:11 PM, zap wrote:
>>> security issues? privacy issues? stability issues?
>>
>> No on all three counts. The only thing "wrong" with systemd is that some
>> people don't like it.
>>
>> Kind of like how I can't stand vi. But that's a whole other discussion. :P
>>
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