2017-08-17 18:30 GMT+02:00 Richard Wilbur <[email protected]>:
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 23:28, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 2017-08-17 1:01 GMT+02:00 Richard Wilbur <[email protected]>:
>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 23:31, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> if i just take *out* the ground intermediary traces that would do the
>>>> trick of bringing the impedance back up, is that right?
>>>
>>> Should be a major step in the right direction.

After thinking it through I have to agree. Each GND trace would become
coupled with the diff pairs. Effectively creating a link between two
pairs. Which we do not want.

>>>
>>
>> How about the ground plane below the traces... That's a major stray
>> capacitance and closer than the "narrow" surrounding GND traces?
>
> The ground plane would be stray except we designed it into the single-ended 
> and differential impedance.  At this point it is integral to our differential 
> microstrip geometry.  (See my original post in the thread "HDMI 
> High-Frequency Layout:  Impedance".)

I'll read that again.

I guess we just need to make sure that no other GND loop crosses the
HDMI plane. Perhaps create a barrier on the GND that follows the outer
HDMI traces. To prevent unwanted GND loops

http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slyp173/slyp173.pdf

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